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Old 06-08-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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Most perplexing thing about conservatives is that they would prefer the explosion of freely provided Medicaid and SSDI for the drug addicted and non-working Americans .
Most perplexing thing about liberals they believe Uncle Sam can do a better job then the private industry.

We have examples of how "good" the fed does with managing health care by looking at the VA, Medicare and Medicaid.

I DON'T want them involved in MY health care.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Which is....a lack of affordable healthcare or health insurance. Many have found they have no choice but to resort to Medicaid of SSDI in order to provided medical care for their family.
" Many have found they have no choice but to resort to Medicaid of SSDI in order to provided medical care for their family."

Why is that?
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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Most perplexing thing about liberals they believe Uncle Sam can do a better job then the private industry.

We have examples of how "good" the fed does with managing health care by looking at the VA, Medicare and Medicaid.

I DON'T want them involved in MY health care.
What's wrong with Medicare?
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:17 AM
 
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" Many have found they have no choice but to resort to Medicaid of SSDI in order to provided medical care for their family."

Why is that?
The only reason it could be. Private health insurance is unaffordable.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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According to a study that was conducted by the Koch Brothers, it will cost $32 Trillion, but save $2 Trillion.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/32-t...ry?id=56938226
Thats not what Im asking.
How much will it cost per person?
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Thats not what Im asking.
How much will it cost per person?
Your exact words were:

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So how much is it?
Next time, be more specific instead of trying to move the goal posts after the fact.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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The only reason it could be. Private health insurance is unaffordable.
Even certain financial assistance plans can be unaffordable. I just applied through NYS Marketplace because I can't get employer insurance. I would have loved to get an Essential Plan with a $44 premium for medical, vision and dental, but I make too much. Too bad, because the EPP is the only reasonable health plan out there out of everything that is available - covers a ton of services, and the premiums and copays are very reasonable. Too bad the income threshold is only between $24,000 and $25,000.

I got an Advance Premium Tax Credit with Cost Sharing Reduction, but the CSR requires a Silver Plan. Even with my APTC I'd be paying at least $150/month. I had to opt for a Bronze plan with a $4,000 deductible. I better hope I don't need to use it. If I am offered employer insurance I'll have to accept it and cancel my current plan, even

When you factor in deductibles and co-insurance, you may as well not have insurance at all, because you end up paying for the majority of the services anyway.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:59 AM
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In an era where Medicare-for-All is now overwhelmingly popular amongst the general populace, a new study shows that the US would see significant savings from implementing such a system, in addition to improving the economy and well-being/mental health.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...us-51-trillion


At medicare payment rates, half of the hospitals and medical practices would have gone bankrupt, precipitating a healthcare access crisis.


Hooray for liberalism!
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Old 06-08-2019, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Mexico City (at the moment)
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New Study Championing Medicare for All Is Bogus

"Gruber" me once, shame on you... "Gruber" me twice, shame on me...
Lol, cant rep you anymore.
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Old 06-08-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Thats not what Im asking.
How much will it cost per person?
about $90K per person over 10 years.

Which, FWIW, I'd say isn't that bad. I know that my annual premiums alone for a family of 4 and high-deductible coverage had gotten to $12-15K per year
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