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Old 06-08-2019, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I can't understand how Medicare costs you $1000/mo. As a high earner I pay closer to $400.
Simple answer is mostly drugs. $400 for Drs and Hosp...$600 for drugs. Check out Multaq and Edarbi and Xarelto. The rest are relatively cheap.
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Old 06-08-2019, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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sure would be nice to spend time and money truly attempting to get at the truth, rather than partisans on each side being unable to make a point without jabbing at the other.

just the article linked, the author/proponent took 16 whole words before calling it "uniquely inefficient and immoral".
When authors bring up morals while speaking of government they, no doubt, are lost.
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Old 06-08-2019, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That’s why deadbeats should have access to free condoms, contraception, and abortion. It’s probably the most cost-effective government spending there is.
Contraception is already widely available and very inexpensive without government.
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Old 06-08-2019, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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As if dying because one cannot afford the price of Insulin is freedom of privatized healthcare.

High insulin costs are killing Americans

With a Medicaid card, that insulin would cost a meager $3 co-pay.
The big government that you love is responsible for the high costs. That you refuse to see that because you don't care about the truth is on you.
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Old 06-08-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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Simple answer is mostly drugs. $400 for Drs and Hosp...$600 for drugs. Check out Multaq and Edarbi and Xarelto. The rest are relatively cheap.
Ah, your drugs were covered by your previous plan. Part D is not the best part of Medicare.
My wife is on more than $20K worth of pills per month, and one big reason why we don't move her from Obamacare to Medicare right now.

I do believe that Part D is going to see big changes for the general good in the coming years.
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Old 06-08-2019, 08:58 PM
 
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If you were to experience a freak health crisis (and they do/can happen, no one's invincible), you won't have to worry about suddenly having to cough up tens of thousands of dollars to pay off the high deductible and premiums to cover your medical costs.

It works just like car insurance. It's a very low chance that you'll ever get into accident, but if/when you do, the insurance exists to cover the damage and even help you buy a new car if it's totaled. It also covers you if, heaven forbid, you're at fault in the accident and the other car owner comes after you for reimbursement.
Bad analogy.

Everyone eventually will get sick and die. Very different than car insurance. Plus lots of people do not have cars. Everyone has a body that will eventually break down. Some sooner, some later.

If we simply implemented the cost controls that would go into place with gov't insurance and mandate that for the private sector we could see the same results without all the gov't overreach. There is no magic wand that allows the gov't do things cheaper or better than the private sector. If you look at how the gov't runs things its never better than the private sector at anything. But socialists dream of the gov't controlling all aspects of life so that is not good enough. Its just part of the slow march to a socialist America that they all dream of.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Well at least you have catastrophic.
I don't have catastrophic. Only people under 30 qualify for catastrophic plans, so I'm 14 years too old. I have a Qualified Health Plan with an Advanced Premium Tax Credit of $369/month, and the only reason I was allowed to enroll now, outside of Open Enrollment, is because I lost my old employer-sponsored plan less than 60 days ago.
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Old 06-08-2019, 10:10 PM
 
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I don't have catastrophic. Only people under 30 qualify for catastrophic plans, so I'm 14 years too old. I have a Qualified Health Plan with an Advanced Premium Tax Credit of $369/month, and the only reason I was allowed to enroll now, outside of Open Enrollment, is because I lost my old employer-sponsored plan less than 60 days ago.
If you have a Bronze plan, that includes catastrophic coverage. No yearly or lifetime limits.
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Old 06-08-2019, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Indeed.

Funny thing is, people were also calling Medicare over age 65 "radical" back when LBJ passed it. Now, it's "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!"
Yep. The right wing would rather have everything privatized and as expensive and wasteful as possible.
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Old 06-08-2019, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Bad analogy.

Everyone eventually will get sick and die. Very different than car insurance. Plus lots of people do not have cars. Everyone has a body that will eventually break down. Some sooner, some later.

If we simply implemented the cost controls that would go into place with gov't insurance and mandate that for the private sector we could see the same results without all the gov't overreach. There is no magic wand that allows the gov't do things cheaper or better than the private sector. If you look at how the gov't runs things its never better than the private sector at anything. But socialists dream of the gov't controlling all aspects of life so that is not good enough. Its just part of the slow march to a socialist America that they all dream of.
This is not true. The private sector is interested in MAXIMUM profits. Are you really that uninformed? Your talking point is foolish.
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