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Do most people realize that only part A is free. You still to pay for Part B and D plus a supplement for full coverage.
Part A isn't free either. Medicare recipients pay into the system all their working lives, even if they get on Medicare prematurely via disability. They pay for it via taxes. Conservatives conveniently forget even welfare recipients pay for their benefits via tax dollars. Everyone pays into the system they use.
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Gee Frank, are you 65? Are you already on Medicare? If not, you have no clue what you are talking about!
Medicare and Social Security are two of the most wonderful programs ever devised in the US. Older Americans would be dying in droves without it!
Now Medicare for all, not so sure about. Not only would there be a problem paying for it that manure concerned about but, I hate to break to to some folks, Medicare is not free. When the "Bleeding Hearts" get ahold of it, are they going to waive the premium for those deemed too poor to pay? Medicare Part B only pays 80%, what about what's left, who will pay that? What about Drugs, Medicare does not cover that unless you get a Part D Plan which is not free either. Even with a Part D, there are still significant co-pays.
I'm sure when these politicians are thinking about Medicare for All, that's not what they mean, they mean just plain health care for all, no premiums, no rules, everything is paid for by "Someone Else"
No, Frank either:
A. Has millions of dollars in savings
B. Doesn't want to contribute one red cent towards helping anybody else
C. Is so ideologically pure that he'd be ok just suffering and dying if he couldn't afford his care out of pocket
The big government that you love is responsible for the high costs. That you refuse to see that because you don't care about the truth is on you.
Don't think so. The private healthcare system is robbing us blind with the price of drugs and medical costs. Look at how less expensive these costs are in countries with universal healthcare and you will become a believer.
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the U.S. has dramatically outpaced other advanced nations. While per capita spending in the U.S. today exceeds US$1,000 a year, the Germans and French pay about half that.
Capitalism baby! I can't understand how conservatives have been so hoodwinked into fighting against their own self interest. You may want to pay your retirement away for healthcare but those with common sense, don't.
Let's get it straight...
Government criminalizes the unlicensed trade and practice of medicine and prices go .... UP!
Government granted monopoly shuts down medical schools, creating a shortage of physicians, and prices go .... UP!
Government corrupts the money system with worthless notes and counterfeit fractional coin causing prices to go ... UP!
Government authorizes underwriters / insurers to skim even more from the overcharged patient, who now must support a legion of clerks, form fillers, and bureaucrats causing prices to go .... UP!
And now, we're to believe that letting government take over healthcare - akin to the power over life and death - as a remedy for all past meddling by government.
"What fools these Merikans be!"
No cause/effect of your examples. Try this one: unchecked capitalism and profit in healthcare and prices go...UP!
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" We pay roughly twice as much as comparable countries and get a lesser result."
NOT when you factor in the TAXES they pay to get it.
We pay taxes for a growing list of non-employed to receive medical benefits (Medicaid, SSDI) and then we pay for ourselves. You like paying for others while having to pay for yourself too? Why not have the tax payers benefit?
Capitalism baby! I can't understand how conservatives have been so hoodwinked into fighting against their own self interest. You may want to pay your retirement away for healthcare but those with common sense, don't.
Crony Capitalism run by the big government you love baby!
Nothing to do with the free market baby! I can understand how big government supporters have been so hoodwinked into fighting against their own self interest. They are uneducated, ignorant, and aren't adult enough to take care of themselves.
Common sense starts with understanding the crony capitalism that comes with the big government you love, squelches competition. Competition improves efficiency.
This forum is an opportunity for you to inform us of how you reached your opinions. Apparently, you are unable or unwilling to do so. What is the point of you commenting here if you bring nothing to the table?
Vs your made up posts that don't have the facts to back it up?
lol As if that's the only option. Stop with the fake drama
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