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You mean to wait your turn with others who desperately need medical care?
Yes, that’s what I mean. My private insurance plan ensures access to prompt care without waiting weeks or months for my “turn” for diagnostic procedures or visits with a specialist. It’s worth every penny we pay for it.
Unadulterated horse pucky! On the one hand people say the larger the pool of insured parties serves to reduce costs to individual participants by the spreading of risk ….. then you jump to claiming the largest pool of all would serve only to reduce services.
You really are a conflicted lot of contrarians.
These are not mutually exclusive. Both are likely true. Health care is a finite resource and it will be rationed one way or another.
Hillarycare was conceptual legislation that died in 1994.
ER was a fictional show set in a county trauma level one hospital.
I was referring to the portrayal of insurance, lack thereof, costs and ongoing references to obesity being a serious contributing factor to disease.
Yes it did die legislatively but do you think hospitals were not being proactive in case it did get through? the changes (negative changes) were happening while Hillary was trying to push it though.
I don't get the objection some have to universal healthcare.
In Canada, after you get rid of all the anecdotal things about wait lines etc., the fact remains that Canada spends 1/3 less as a percentage of GDP than the USA with better outcomes.
Canadians live longer. That is the final arbitrator.
Actually portions of it have been in effect for a long time. Number 3 below is interesting.
Why It Was Defeated
1. Doctors worried about being forced into insurance-run HMOs. They feared they would completely lose control over pricing, care, and treatment. Instead, health insurance companies would further dictate what would be covered and who would receive care.
2. Congress was concerned about the number of benefits. They thought it would add too much to the budget deficit.
3. Labor unions didn’t support the initiative. They were angry at the President for signing NAFTA. Their members lost jobs when manufacturers moved them to low-cost Mexico.
There is no public insurance in Switzerland. Everyone from birth to death is covered by private insurance. Insurers are not allowed to profit off basic insurance. The healthy 20 year old pays the same premium as a sickly 88 year old.
So in some ways, the Swiss system of health care resembles the model for economic regulation of public utilities and transportation which existed prior to the rise of the deregulation movement after 1975. That economic trend did "shake out" a lot of inefficient and previously-protected participants, but new entrepreneurs quickly took their place.
Point being, a complete reorganization of health care in America would likely have the same result; the indigent wouldn't be turned away, but they would likely have to find different sources of care -- more efficient, but more impersonal.
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Yes, that’s what I mean. My private insurance plan ensures access to prompt care without waiting weeks or months for my “turn” for diagnostic procedures or visits with a specialist. It’s worth every penny we pay for it.
You could still buy a private insurance plan for this special access. I'm sure there are insurance companies and doctors who would be willing to take your money to provide you with the illusion that you are special.
I don't get the objection some have to universal healthcare.
In Canada, after you get rid of all the anecdotal things about wait lines etc., the fact remains that Canada spends 1/3 less as a percentage of GDP than the USA with better outcomes.
Canadians live longer. That is the final arbitrator.
Living longer is not necessarily a qualifier of a happier life. My folks are 89 and 90 and have been housebound and bored to death the past five years of their life. They hate their reduced mobility.
You could still buy a private insurance plan for this special access. I'm sure there are insurance companies and doctors who would be willing to take your money to provide you with the illusion that you are special.
Aww look at you getting all bent out of shape and making this personal. How very grown-up and mature you are.
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