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Old 06-08-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Obesity is good for business.

Junk food is addictive, so that’s good for the food industry. All of the resulting health problems are good for our for-profit healthcare system. The fact that people are dependent on their employer is also good for business, because it means that employers have more leverage over their employees.
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:24 PM
 
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I'm surprised we haven't seen a thread titled something like "Before Trump came to office 10% of Americans were obese and now it's 40%"
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/download...rends_2010.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

Amazing, how trendy obesity has become. I have to laugh when people suggest "Medicare for All" when there is such shocking obesity.

The only way we could ever have "Universal Health Care" is if obesity went close to zero and every one ate exclusively a healthy diet and those that can worked out constantly.

Many of the 40% will be graduating on into morbid obesity very quickly. Which means many chronic ailments per person. Many obese young adults today likely won't be able to work in a decade as they graduate into morbid obesity and have to go to appointments every other day.

Many people in their 20s and 30s can hardly walk not because of disability, but because of their obesity.

How the heck can the country afford a universal health care system when 40% plus of people are racing as fast as they can to have chronic ailments that last decades.

I remember seeing pictures of people a hundred years ago in history books and the average American looked like a supermodel, compared to the majority today.

In a generation basically go from 18 states where less than 1 in 10 is obese, to 40% obesity across the entire nation.
Didn't you post an identical thread a few days ago? You even used the same sentence I bolded.
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:43 PM
 
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I'm not a big fan of studies that rely on BMI...

Top 10 Reasons Why The BMI Is Bogus

People are getting fatter and fatter. Just look around, you don't need a study to validate that.
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Well, when you have a President who invites sports teams to the White House and serves them cheeseburgers and fries, it is kind of representative of the Trump base, whose idea of dining out is visiting the drive-thru.

Ever seen a Tea Party rally? It's like going whale watching.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:03 AM
 
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I agree BMI is not accurate. It doesn't account for muscle, age or waist size. ABSI is much more accurate and should replace BMI.

https://www.mytecbits.com/tools/medi...ator#risklevel
I realize there is alot of back and forth debate on causes of obesity, but I truly believe everyone KNOWS why they are obese, they KNOW what they are eating or drinking, that is causing this...they just do not want to stop consuming, its almost like an addiction.


As Ive explained before, about the gas station/ convenience store fountain drinks,( 52oz and 64oz larges) imo, this was planned, all these stores didnt just double their drink sizes over the course of about 10-15 years! The strange part about this, back when a large was a 32 oz, the price was the same as it is today, for a 64 oz large...99 cents.???


How much sense does that make? LOL


Ive been wanting to try a little experiment, and ask our fountain drink suppliers if they offer a 72oz or 84 oz fountain cup...the larger 52 and 64 oz sizes have been out for a few years now, so if the trend continues, the sizes should be going up again soon, Im just curious to hear how the cup manufacturer responds to the request, I think they will probably say, they do not offer them right now, but they are coming.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Japan
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There something about processed foods that make people want to overeat.

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Twenty volunteers were placed into a metabolic lab for 4 weeks. There, all of their meals and snacks were provided for them. For a 2-week period (chosen at random) they would get an ultra-processed diet. The other 2 weeks, they would get an unprocessed diet.

Everyone was given roughly twice the amount of calories they needed to stay in energy balance and told simply to eat at will—eat what they want. The dietitians had their work cut out for them, but they matched the presented food in terms of calorie content, macronutrient content, salt, and even energy density.
With the options on the table, participants ate.

And in the case of ultra-processed food, they ate some more. On average, they ate around 500 calories/day more than they did when presented with an unprocessed diet.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle...VlPm112jU2sHP4
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:36 AM
 
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I'm surprised we haven't seen a thread titled something like "Before Trump came to office 10% of Americans were obese and now it's 40%"
Why only 40%?
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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There something about processed foods that make people want to overeat.
Processed food is "empty calories", they don't make you full, and why would the producers want you full? You'll stop eating, and that is less profit from sales.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:46 AM
 
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https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/download...rends_2010.pdf


The only way we could ever have "Universal Health Care" is if obesity went close to zero and every one ate exclusively a healthy diet and those that can worked out constantly.
I don't know why having Universal Health Care is dependent on everyone losing weight. People very often need health care when they are NOT healthy. Part of the role of medical care is prevention and encouraging healthy lifestyles.
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