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Old 06-09-2019, 12:45 AM
 
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Are you saying that this individual represents an entire state?
Says more about you.

What kind of French people would decide to live in a swamp?
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Was Virginia Beach attack carried out by government or staged like Las Vegas attack?


I'm sure it was planned and carried out by the same dark forces who brought down Building 7 in the World Trade Center attack on Sept. 11, 2001.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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If you want a conspiracy, it's always possible to cook one up.

But in the Las Vegas shooting, there is plenty of evidence that Steven Paddock, the shooter, planned several other times to set up a mass shooting. The other events didn't match his objectives however, and while his motives will never be known for sure, it's obvious the festival met his criteria.

We will never know his mental state for sure either, but it's a fact he had become an alcoholic and a degenerate gambler who was a loner by nature. That's all we'll ever know, and there are some holes in our knowledge that have plenty of room for cooking a conspiracy with any spin you want to put on it.

Since it's likely we will know even less about the Virginia Beach shooter, it will be quite easy to conflate 2 separate incidents into one conspiracy.

The experts in this sort of thing are now saying that they all want attention for their deeds. They may want to die, but they don't want to die anonymously. They want to be famous after their death (Infamous is good enough, as long as they're remembered.)

So, if we want these shootings to subside, the only way to get it is to not give the next shooter what he wants. Give him nothing, and eventually, hopefully, the shootings will gradually fade away as the shooters come to understand they won't ever be famous afterward.

Who knows if it will work or not? We'll never know until we try. And our fascination with the perp is so deep and strong that it may take a long time for us all to change our ways. So the longer we keep up doing what we are doing now, more death can be expected.
If we create conspiracies, they will only encourage more shooters to pull the trigger.

John Kennedy's death was over 50 years ago. So far in the past that many of us here weren't born yet, and know little about his life or his Presidency, but are well acquainted with all the conspiracy theories that grew like cancer, and like cancer, seem to be immortal as they have never died away.

That longevity would be mighty attractive to someone who wants to go out in a blaze of gunfire and never be forgotten. Choose to help him out, or choose to deny him his day of infamy.

Only time will tell if the second will work, but the first sure has failed more than a half-century. It's pretty obvious these shooters would rather be a dark star than no star at all.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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What kind of French people would decide to live in a swamp?
The ones driven out of Novis Cosia.
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Old 06-09-2019, 01:00 AM
 
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The smell of crazy is strong in here.
A scent that is perhaps not as foul as a skunk!
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:16 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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If you want a conspiracy, it's always possible to cook one up.

But in the Las Vegas shooting, there is plenty of evidence that Steven Paddock, the shooter, planned several other times to set up a mass shooting. The other events didn't match his objectives however, and while his motives will never be known for sure, it's obvious the festival met his criteria.

We will never know his mental state for sure either, but it's a fact he had become an alcoholic and a degenerate gambler who was a loner by nature. That's all we'll ever know, and there are some holes in our knowledge that have plenty of room for cooking a conspiracy with any spin you want to put on it.

Since it's likely we will know even less about the Virginia Beach shooter, it will be quite easy to conflate 2 separate incidents into one conspiracy.

The experts in this sort of thing are now saying that they all want attention for their deeds. They may want to die, but they don't want to die anonymously. They want to be famous after their death (Infamous is good enough, as long as they're remembered.)

So, if we want these shootings to subside, the only way to get it is to not give the next shooter what he wants. Give him nothing, and eventually, hopefully, the shootings will gradually fade away as the shooters come to understand they won't ever be famous afterward.

Who knows if it will work or not? We'll never know until we try. And our fascination with the perp is so deep and strong that it may take a long time for us all to change our ways. So the longer we keep up doing what we are doing now, more death can be expected.
If we create conspiracies, they will only encourage more shooters to pull the trigger.

John Kennedy's death was over 50 years ago. So far in the past that many of us here weren't born yet, and know little about his life or his Presidency, but are well acquainted with all the conspiracy theories that grew like cancer, and like cancer, seem to be immortal as they have never died away.

That longevity would be mighty attractive to someone who wants to go out in a blaze of gunfire and never be forgotten. Choose to help him out, or choose to deny him his day of infamy.

Only time will tell if the second will work, but the first sure has failed more than a half-century. It's pretty obvious these shooters would rather be a dark star than no star at all.
I highly doubt now that its an effort by the media to not make these killers "infamous". The media has ever only acted upon its own agenda, not out of any desire for the betterment or the safety of society. If that was true they wouldn't be promoting unfair trade agreements, opposing Trump's plans to help our safety adn economy over other countries, they won't be promoting refugees and illegal immigrants, or attacking the police.
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:18 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The anti-gun agenda is one of the media's agendas. The liberal media and the deep state is leftist about everything, but especially vocal about certain things. One is to promote not just the gay agenda but now particularly the transgender agenda. Another is to promote abortion and attack any efforts to restrict abortion, but lastly is their crusade against the 2nd amendment and gun rights. They are all about centralized control, everything dictated from Washington with very weakened local rights and states rights. We see this with all issues.
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:21 AM
 
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I dunno about all this, but I do know to never question the motives of the corporate media or the CIA, FBI...
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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The anti-gun agenda is one of the media's agendas. The liberal media and the deep state is leftist about everything, but especially vocal about certain things. One is to promote not just the gay agenda but now particularly the transgender agenda. Another is to promote abortion and attack any efforts to restrict abortion, but lastly is their crusade against the 2nd amendment and gun rights. They are all about centralized control, everything dictated from Washington with very weakened local rights and states rights. We see this with all issues.

Nice rant, but what does this have to do with Virginia Beach and the Las Vegas Massacre?
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:29 AM
 
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Another theory is that Dwayne Craddock, the alleged gunman, was a Black Muslim but the media wanted to cover that fact, as this certainly would fit the liberal media's agenda in protecting Islam underemphasizing Islamic terrorism, etc. Just like with Las Vegas if Stephen Paddock indeed commited that act, the most realistic theory is that he had coverted to Islam and pledged allegiance to ISIS but the media would never report that if it was true because they don't want to promote Islamophobia.
They said all of that about the guy (ISIS etc etc etc) that killed all the people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.

Wild conspiracies and denial of reality really don't make for a compelling reason to continue reading your posts. So, um....where is that...oh yeah....edit ignore list.
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