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Old 06-11-2019, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This is the part I don't understand. Who the heck would these attacks staged for?
Who would pick a black male, former military, current engineer, clean record, uses a hand gun. A good conspiracy theory have at least some truth mixed in to hang the BS on.


I am going to have to leave this forum if this is the best we can do.
The incident is unworthy of being called a conspiracy theory.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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...... One can't but wonder if this is part of the leftist globalist agenda to make sure people don't trust any gun owners, to convince the public that any gun owner can snap at any time. ......

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Yes, one CAN help wonder. One can choose to be logical and not hop on to every lunatic conspiracy theory. One can take off the tinfoil hat and turn off Alex Jones, and join the world of the sane. Try it.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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Another theory is that Dwayne Craddock, the alleged gunman, was a Black Muslim but the media wanted to cover that fact, as this certainly would fit the liberal media's agenda in protecting Islam underemphasizing Islamic terrorism, etc. Just like with Las Vegas if Stephen Paddock indeed commited that act, the most realistic theory is that he had coverted to Islam and pledged allegiance to ISIS but the media would never report that if it was true because they don't want to promote Islamophobia.
Wouldn't ISIS have sent out videos claiming responsibility on Paddock?
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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About the same number of people died in Virginia Beach than Parkland. Many shootings have killed more people than were allegedly killed in Parkland yet THAT shooting has the most coverage, more than even the Las Vegas attack which killed far more people. The shooting at the church in Sunderland Springs also killed more people.

One reason Parkland gets all that attention is because those students are engaged in liberal activism in a way that agrees with the media's agenda. The country fans in Las Vegas, the residents of Sunderland Springs and Virginia Beach are more conservative and don't blame guns so there's less coverage. Parkland and Newtown are already very liberal places and its not the shootings that galvanized them into liberal activism, it was more of a spark that got them to act on their already liberal tendencies.

The Charleston church shooting also got a lot of coverage as it allowed the media to paint the portrait of a racist America, of dangerous alleged Trump supporters and to attack the Confederate flag and Southern culture. Now on the record I do believe the Charleston, Sandy Hook and Parkland shootings really did happen. I'm on the fence about Virginia Beach. I do think the Las Vegas massacre happened but was commited by the federal government, not by Trump directly but by agents of the deep state seeking to undermine him and his agenda, perhaps with the cooperation of the media.
What did “ deep state” have to gain by shooting nearly 1000 people in Las Vegas?

22,000 people attended the Harvest Fest concert. Impossible to know the gun ideologies of 22,000 people.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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I will never understand what moderators allow on this site and what they don't. Good God, it is infuriating. This isn't politics, it's the OP's fan fiction.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:18 AM
 
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What did “ deep state” have to gain by shooting nearly 1000 people in Las Vegas?

22,000 people attended the Harvest Fest concert. Impossible to know the gun ideologies of 22,000 people.
With each mass shooting that happens...more and more people are coming to agree that tougher gun control measures are needed in this country....if ENOUGH mass shootings happen, a majority of people could agree than NO citizen should be permitted to possess a firearm.


Thats what these shootings are about...changing public opinion on guns and gun laws, this is a much more effective way to disarm the public compared to using brute force...essentially, you get them to a mindset where they disarm themselves willingly!!
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:31 AM
 
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Media reports the Governor’s intentions.
Virginia must have an idiot governor.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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With each mass shooting that happens...more and more people are coming to agree that tougher gun control measures are needed in this country....if ENOUGH mass shootings happen, a majority of people could agree than NO citizen should be permitted to possess a firearm.


Thats what these shootings are about...changing public opinion on guns and gun laws, this is a much more effective way to disarm the public compared to using brute force...essentially, you get them to a mindset where they disarm themselves willingly!!
This country - - this board - - needs severe mental health services.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:42 AM
 
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No, the two aren't even close. Paddock had deep state contacts and no visible means of support other than a " hobby" of being a casino gambler. He was a private pilot, had a wife from the Philippines and mysteriously amassed a huge arsenal of weapons even though he never showed any interest in firearms. And his brother... yeah. Let's just say Paddock was into human trafficking ( very probably), maybe drug trafficking, and God knows what else. And there were so many never answered questions in the slip shod bungled investigation/ cover up. Mysterious visitors, accounts of multiple shooters, specific timing and targets, eye witness is told to shut up and then gets paraded in front of the cameras on "Ellen" and changes his story and then... vanishes. MGM should have been bankrupted and sued for its involvement and Ellen should be off the air. I can't stand the sight of her even though once I was a fan.
Then this guy has anger issues and shoots up his workplace. No statement, he was a loner and had trouble connecting with people. Was it 'roid rage, was he on meds, or just a screwball.
So trying to make the Virginia Beach into a conspiracy is a pretty weak attempt at making smoke but little else. Although we're getting the guys backstory sanitized and the MSM is sitting on whatever did cause him to go off the rails. It doesn't sell an agenda so they'll keep it quiet and hope people speculate it was a conspiracy. That's the only conspiracy.
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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No, the two aren't even close. Paddock had deep state contacts and no visible means of support other than a " hobby" of being a casino gambler. He was a private pilot, had a wife from the Philippines and mysteriously amassed a huge arsenal of weapons even though he never showed any interest in firearms. And his brother... yeah. Let's just say Paddock was into human trafficking ( very probably), maybe drug trafficking, and God knows what else. And there were so many never answered questions in the slip shod bungled investigation/ cover up. Mysterious visitors, accounts of multiple shooters, specific timing and targets, eye witness is told to shut up and then gets paraded in front of the cameras on "Ellen" and changes his story and then... vanishes. MGM should have been bankrupted and sued for its involvement and Ellen should be off the air. I can't stand the sight of her even though once I was a fan.
Uh huh.
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