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Old 06-19-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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hahahaha Many white people think being white means you're an individual? That's just your racism showing through.

"at the early white men" good to see you continue with your racism. As if white people are a monolith
No, I don't think of white people as inferior or superior to me or my group (black people) in any way, so no racism showing just stating the obvious. Many white people do think the phrase "white people" is about them as an individual. Other groups, including black people, have the same sorts of individuals who get defensive every time someone says something about "black people" and they feel like someone is speaking about them, when they are not. Same thing.

And my comment about early white men creating the term "people of color" and racial caste systems in America is true. You may get offended by this, but it is true. It is silly to me that you and the other posters are offended by it. Just as silly is the idea that all groups shouldn't identify as such in this country. As noted in the link I posted, Ben Franklin, who was a Founding Father mentioned various "groups" of people, including indigenous Americans, Germans, English, and Africans in that letter. He didn't speak overwhelmingly negative about any of them except, ironically, the English lol in that they need to be harder working and that their culture in England was predicated on the wealthy classes controlling the lower classes, which in turn, makes both of them not be hard working like the Germans lol. One could claim he was racist against Germans by basically insinuating that England had an inferior culture. FWIW he claimed the same thing about indigenous Americans and Africans. I'm not offended even though I have German, indigenous, and African ancestry. I don't agree with him, or the attributed letter, in regards to England having an inferior culture, nor that indigenous people do or African people, but I do agree with him that if people don't have an incentive to do specific work/tasks and follow a particular cultural model, then they won't do those things.

He mentioned how Africans and indigenous Americans had "plenty" to and to take care of themselves without having to do much "work" in their native lands and so their cultures are not as "industrious" as the Germans and English. I actually agree with this in that in that era, Europeans had a lot of hardships compared to people in more hospitable environments of "plenty" like Africans and Native Americans. So they would not be out trying to think of ways to make money like Europeans because they could satisfy their needs easier. Franklin basically insinuated that the "plenty" in America would make English Americans lazy because they didn't have to work as hard in America. There was also some xenophobic fear of Germans mixed in the letter.
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Old 06-19-2019, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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I wrote a post stating I hated the term "people of color", and the response to that post, as in, the poster quoted my post, said 'It's funny how white people blah blah blah when they are the ones blah blah blah", so, it was most certainly directed at me.

I'm white, but I didn't create jack spit when it comes to labels. So what is this 'that they created'? Or are you going to try to pretend that doesn't mean exactly what it means.

You can roll those eyes right on out of your head for all I care.

You all want me to feel guilty about what happened in the past. Tough cookies. I don't. I never will.
LOL. The facts are the facts. It matters not to me how you feel about it. It’s both interesting and amusing to me that you harbor such hatred over it when was whites the created the term, which doesn’t even apply to you in the first place. Guarantee it’ll be ok...haha.
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Old 06-20-2019, 12:02 AM
 
Location: California
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Definitions change all the time depending on the particular people loudly claiming something is offensive. Often the things we say, or are told not to say, are just social trends that constantly have to be updated. BLACK has never been derogatory though so that's weird.
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Old 06-20-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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To artists, black and white are both the "absence of color".

Maybe to artists but white is the combination of all visible colors (but is not a specific color) and black is the absence of color because it is the absence of light.
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Old 06-20-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Definitions change all the time depending on the particular people loudly claiming something is offensive. Often the things we say, or are told not to say, are just social trends that constantly have to be updated. BLACK has never been derogatory though so that's weird.
Sure it has, that is how America got to "colored" instead of black as opposed to negro at the turn of the 20th century. Negro which was too closely related to the "N word" given regional accents would then come later. For which we have made full circle as many consider using negro as a sly way to use a faux N word. To turn around the negative image as the move from colored to negro to black went about there was the social movement to reclaim black as a proud term. "Say it Loud, I'm black and I'm proud" from soul brother number one.

As late as the mid 70's I remember black Latina actress/singer Lola Falana on the Mike Douglass TV show talking about why she rejected black, at the time when black was the progressive term for Americans with any known African racial heritage.
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Old 06-21-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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If they look up the term "snowflake" in the dictionary, it should have pictures of them.
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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I didn't come up with "people of color" OR "black", either. Take your phony outrage and your nonsense somewhere else.
LOL...try again. You’re the one outraged, not me. You’re the one griping about how “people of color” is offensive when it doesn’t even apply to you. I’m not bothered by the term at all. As much as these terms are still imposed, whites don’t have half as much control over what terms others use to define themselves as they used to. So you’ll have to get over “people of color.”
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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I don't think it's the dictionary's fault. It's whoever started calling people 'blacks' who chose to apply the word in that context. When you are a race that is named after the color black, of course the dictionary is going to make it sound bad, since black is the bleakest darkest color. Why would some people blame the dictionary, when the word was inaccurately assigned to the race?
Bolded for emphasis.
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:02 PM
 
Location: NJ
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right, and the next headline 'three white women like the color blue'. galacticly less than significant! media uses one off protests and publishes them implying they represent the entire community, all to forward a political/ social justice agenda. Thus we got the 99% vs the 1%


Don't need trump to declare the media is no longer the free press, it has become the socialist democrats official propaganda machine
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Old 06-26-2019, 06:17 AM
 
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This isn't the first time I heard of something like this.

If I recall correctly, the movie Malcolm X had a scene where Malcolm was talking about the negative connotations of the word black in the dictionary as compared to white.

It was only a matter of time until self anointed activist snowflakes with too much time on their hands saw this opportunity.


https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/wome...000906372.html
OK. I'll go back to using Colored, as it is still used by the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People and have NEVER heard of one colored person complain about the name.

If it is good enough for them, ought to be good enough for the rest of us!


"So Let’s Move To Change It And Proudly Represent BLACK, As We Really Are.”" Odd, I have NEVER seen a "black" person. May shades of brown but, NEVER black.
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