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Old 06-10-2019, 02:27 PM
 
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One more time.


Oh and solar? That's 3.4% of the 9%.
Powering 10 million Americans. That's impressive in any book.

Plus all those lawn and security lights!

Put another way, we are powering a nation larger than Isreal on Solar PV......

Impressive.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:28 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Powering 10 million Americans. That's impressive in any book.

Plus all those lawn and security lights!

Put another way, we are powering a nation larger than Isreal on Solar PV......

Impressive.
The population of Israel is 8.5 million. US has 37 times that many people.

And most of the US can not be powered by solar, just because of location.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:32 PM
 
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The population of Israel is 8.5 million. US has 37 times that many people.

And most of the US can not be powered by solar, just because of location.
Absolutely false. What talk radio show told you that? Fact is Germany is getting a huge chunk of solar energy and they are cloudy all the time. Location doesn't matter.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:35 PM
 
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Democrats: Clean electric hyperglide train silently whisking commuters to work

Republicans: Dirty coal-fired steam locomotive loudly belching black smoke
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:42 PM
 
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Democrats: Clean electric hyperglide train silently whisking commuters to work

Republicans: Dirty coal-fired steam locomotive loudly belching black smoke
Then you better shut down those steam powered excursion trains in California. They belch out huge clouds carcinogens. Practice what you preach.

SP 4449 locomotive burning old waste oil.

5 steam locomotives at Disneyland. Shut them down.
In Arroyo Grande a half dozen steam locomotives stored in operational condition. Better scrap them.

In Barstow, another steam loco operating. Go after it.

The Redwood Valley Railroad in (gasp) Berkeley has two operating steam locomotives. Shouldn’t be hard to get those shut down. You have a lot of work ahead of you.

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Old 06-10-2019, 07:52 PM
 
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Democrats: Clean electric hyperglide train silently whisking commuters to work

Republicans: Dirty coal-fired steam locomotive loudly belching black smoke
This is so asinine!

Name one republican who wants to suck polluted air.
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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The Redwood Valley Railroad in (gasp) Berkeley has two operating steam locomotives. Shouldn’t be hard to get those shut down. You have a lot of work ahead of you.
"Coal was used up until the mid-1970s when number 4 was converted to fuel oil"

This is "conservative logic" Someone somewhere had a BBQ, so that makes it a bad thing that our power grid has more renewables than ever.

I'll just never understand it except to imagine if I came up with the best answer and then spewed the opposite (in logic, reason and optimism).
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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Democrats: Clean electric hyperglide train silently whisking commuters to work

Republicans: Dirty coal-fired steam locomotive loudly belching black smoke
They just love huffing sulfur....from dirty coal. The dirtier the better.

They dream of having the money to mod their diesel pickups to coal rollers. This way they can give a giant finger to mother earth and to others around them and can rest assured they've contributed more to respiratory disease.

This is apparently "advanced white Christian" civilization that we've worked so hard to perfect and that Bannon is hard at work spreading....bring back the Middle Ages when ALL buildings were soot covered. Good times.
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Oh, my entire career.......lived on about 10% or less of the energy of most Americans in the 1970's, was installing Solar and other renewables as part of my business by 1979...continued involvement in the field since then, headed to the NREL (National Renewable Energy Lab) as a judge this summer to award prizes for innovation in renewable fields, have a child who we paid to go to engineering and law school who shut down those coal plants.....

I could go on, but that is some of it.
yet unable to provide information without your political bent. too bad. You might get many converts.
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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https://electrek.co/2019/06/10/us-re...capacity-coal/

That's quite amazing and I am excited to be a part of it. Coal generation down for about 35% a few years back to 21% and it will continue to fall. Renewables growing by the equiv. of a couple nuke plants per year...
Thatís definitely good news, but there is a limit to how much wind & solar can be added to the grid because of their intermittency.

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and, lets face it, after watching Chernobyl there are probably few Americans pimping for more nukes (ain't gonna happen anyway.
To get deep cuts in carbon dioxide emissions, we will probably need to use nuclear power. Itís not ideal, but there are new reactor designs that are safer (less chance of a meltdown).
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