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Old 06-18-2019, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Israel
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Well, this is how I understand things. Two people might live next door to one another. However, they will have different problems, different issues. They are going to pick the person who will look out for their interests. They aren't going to think in terms of "look out for national interests". For person A, a problem they need addressed is more important to them than the national interests. Why? Because person A figured person B will vote for a person who supports policies that are against person A's interest. Person A is going to look out for self because person A figures person B might be a threat to them.
I'm not sure about that. Of course they'll look at their own interests, yes, but they will ALSO (and possibly first) look at the national interests.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Lol, they could never top the name calling of the liberals though. They have it down to an art. Do the labels, racist, bigot, hater, etc. ring a bell? Don't be a hypocrite!
You forgot all the "phobes". Homophobes, xenophobes, blah, blah....
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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I'm not sure about that. Of course they'll look at their own interests, yes, but they will ALSO (and possibly first) look at the national interests.
People who aren't selfish will look out for the national interests first and foremost. That "what's in it for me" attitude sucks!
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:36 PM
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People who aren't selfish will look out for the national interests first and foremost. That "what's in it for me" attitude sucks!
I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying I understand where it comes from. It comes from a feeling of "I can't trust my neighbor to look out for me, so I have to look out for myself". It comes from a feeling of "I can't put nation before self if it means I have to make some major sacrifices, sacrifices that could hurt me". It's a mentality of fear, distrust, and a survival mentality.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:38 PM
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I'm not sure about that. Of course they'll look at their own interests, yes, but they will ALSO (and possibly first) look at the national interests.
It's also important to understand the history of this country, and that some things just don't change. This country has always been divided. And as of 2019, I don't see that changing. In many cases, we don't need politicians to divide people. Alot of people simply don't trust each other.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Israel
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People who aren't selfish will look out for the national interests first and foremost. That "what's in it for me" attitude sucks!
I agree. To be honest, I was shocked the first time I read it here on CD.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Israel
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It's also important to understand the history of this country, and that some things just don't change. This country has always been divided. And as of 2019, I don't see that changing. In many cases, we don't need politicians to divide people. Alot of people simply don't trust each other.
Well, all I can say is that my experience in America has been different. I've found Americans to be quite friendly and ready to help a stranger, if needed.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:46 PM
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I agree. To be honest, I was shocked the first time I read it here on CD.
As cynical as I can be, this is what I've learned in 33 years of living. Alot of people are out for themselves, regardless of what they say.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:49 PM
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Well, all I can say is that my experience in America has been different. I've found Americans to be quite friendly and ready to help a stranger, if needed.
And I've run into people who would do the same. I've also been around some very selfish people (and been victimized by some). I've seen enough bad that I have to watch out. I've seen alot of good, and I've seen alot of bad.

As far as voting goes, people will consider national issues. They are also going to weigh what issues are important to them. People are going to this "is this issue really going to affect me or will something else?". I've learned that many people are like that.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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Oh, sure. At the national level, yes. But I was talking about NYC Republicans. You can be certain that the numbers would be different for that group.
Of course...

Subsets of the total data base will very often differ from the whole, but I think more generally speaking the focus here is on Republicans vs Democrats in the aggregate across the country, liberals vs conservatives (per the title of the thread). Locally, on the other hand, another story. In New York, I'd be curious how true your assumption about NYC Republicans might be, because my assumption is that most of the 32% pro-lifers in the state (in this poll) are Republicans...

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-l...tion/by/state/
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