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Old 06-11-2019, 12:22 AM
 
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My experience has been that most true Americans hate him, whether they are Liberals or Conservatives, Democrats or Republicans. The people that love Trump are the ones who want to return America back to pre-revolutionairy times, you know, the stuff we left England and Europe for.

Trump himself will tell you that if you don't applaud him you are a traitor. If you don't agree with him, you should be jailed. I know a lot of "fine people on both sides". Very few of them support Trump, and I do believe that those who do, will one day realize they were tricked.
Oh please. People were called "traitors" (and racists) for opposing Obama. Get real.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:08 AM
 
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Oh please. People were called "traitors" (and racists) for opposing Obama. Get real.
Well.. that might have something to do with the months after Obama won, most conservatives on the 10+ or so forums I visit, where calling him a N.lack man... several type of primate names.. and not to mention calling his wife a primate name for years...

Then it slowly died down, when they realized being called racists for 8 years where doing them any good.
Then they started to complain about his tan suit or mustard on a hot dog... Oh, and that he secretly hates white people, is a closet Gay Muslim and wannabe Communist Dictator.



I never noticed anybody calling his children names though.. so there must be some decency in those people.



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Old 06-11-2019, 04:42 AM
 
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On C-D, I have never read a single post from a con or a Trumpist that gave any evidence that there was actual understanding of liberals. Far from it. It has always seemed that understanding liberals is not a goal; the fun part is just denegrating, labeling, and demonizing liberals. Its like a schoolyard bully; half the fun is calling out belittling names and getting away with it. It makes them feel more powerful.
Are you serious? Here's a mirror.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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As the libs try to figure out Trump and are becoming increasingly deranged they prove the premise. The Trump base runs in the background untouched by the lamestream media and the imitation wonks in print media as well. The major failure of conservatism so far is our failure to put arch constitutionalists/patriots in the educational pipeline in the 60's when leftist nut cases were everywhere. They have now harvested a crop of witless snowflakes who are twisted in every way. Eco freaks and tree huggers who get a sense of worth from recycling, rather than understanding the brilliance of our founding fathers and the constitution. As the USA was setup to prosper with self sustaining capitalist citizens who don't need to rely on government, it's probably not going to end well.
Trump isn't conservative and neither is the republican party. I wish they were since progressivisim is a known failure. Any wonder why they don't discuss policy.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:28 AM
 
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As the libs try to figure out Trump and are becoming increasingly deranged they prove the premise. The Trump base runs in the background untouched by the lamestream media and the imitation wonks in print media as well. The major failure of conservatism so far is our failure to put arch constitutionalists/patriots in the educational pipeline in the 60's when leftist nut cases were everywhere. They have now harvested a crop of witless snowflakes who are twisted in every way. Eco freaks and tree huggers who get a sense of worth from recycling, rather than understanding the brilliance of our founding fathers and the constitution. As the USA was setup to prosper with self sustaining capitalist citizens who don't need to rely on government, it's probably not going to end well.


Wrong. You just think you understand us. We, on the other hand, have your side pretty pegged.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:45 AM
 
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some of my favorite people as well as posters are conservatives who enjoy pensions and or social security checks....100 years ago when "liberal politicians" were fighting to codify these ideas into law they were called communist and socialist by the conservatives of that day...these conservatives don't want to discuss "history" as that is "old stuff" and now these poster want to tell you how they are so wise they understand everything..it absolutely fits their personality as in many are "know-it-all" types
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:00 AM
 
Location: NC
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Oh please. People were called "traitors" (and racists) for opposing Obama. Get real.
Maybe (???), but not by Obama himself....
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I understand Trump voters very well. They're the seniors I roller skate with on Friday mornings that have been totally mislead and easily believe everything in print from conservative media. They're low information, stubborn, and stuck in a rut of believing what they want to believe. It ruins their day if you challenge them with facts vs fantasy. Look, I love these people and I treasure every minute with them because I may not see one next week. One of my favorite Trump supporters is an 83 year old Jewish man. He's an Atheist and pro choice. He still supports Trump even though his taxes were 25% higher this year than last year.

The Trump voter is our dear friend Roger, who's had a really rough life. He's been on his own since he was 16 after his father kicked him out. He was a bit of a trouble maker and the new wife wanted him gone. He's uneducated, very racist, and listens to Rush. I don't think he's read a book in decades, and he certainly won't read the Mueller report. He's also a very decent man who buried his first wife young and nearly lost his second wife a couple of years ago. She was at the rehab hospital I worked for and he broke my heart when he was on his knees praying and crying for his wife's life. Well, good medicine saved his wife. She would have had zero chance without it. He's a good man, and a good friend and I love him dearly.

The Trump voter is our neighbors in their 70's. He's a retired cop, alcoholic, and needed medication decades ago for his bipolar issues. He's also as is his wife, uneducated, very prejudiced, and neither read or watch anything out of FOX news. We've been neighbors for decades and we are very close. I'll do anything to help them. They both have health issues and we nearly lost him about a year ago.

People are more than votes, and there are as many rich intelligent people who voted for Trump because they love his tax plan. They won big time, honestly, who wouldn't like that if you'r in that economic stratosphere?

Then there are the Evangelicals willing to prostitute every decent value to over turn Roe v Wade. Their myopic view is all they can see. Never mind that their one size must fit all is both unrealistic, disrespectful, and closely resembles an ISIS mentality. Well he's only human. Yes he lies and cheats, but they all do.

I have a friend that fell victim to the troll farms and voted for Trump at the last minute. She said that all of the negative information changed her mind. Right after he was elected she said that she had made a mistake.

There's the never Clinton's. Yes I really do understand that.

There is the lunatic fringe haters. The "nationalists" who want only white people in America. I remember one on the news saying that Trump was our only chance to have the America he grew up in. It's ridiculous, it's unrealistic, and people of all colors are here to stay.

I understand the Trump voter and I love them in spite of their political ideologies. Being tribal is not the answer. Being a hate monger is not the answer. Respect is the answer. I'm not going to lose friends over a vote.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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I understand Trump voters very well. They're the seniors I roller skate with on Friday mornings that have been totally mislead and easily believe everything in print from conservative media. They're low information, stubborn, and stuck in a rut of believing what they want to believe. It ruins their day if you challenge them with facts vs fantasy. Look, I love these people and I treasure every minute with them because I may not see one next week. One of my favorite Trump supporters is an 83 year old Jewish man. He's an Atheist and pro choice. He still supports Trump even though his taxes were 25% higher this year than last year.

The Trump voter is our dear friend Roger, who's had a really rough life. He's been on his own since he was 16 after his father kicked him out. He was a bit of a trouble maker and the new wife wanted him gone. He's uneducated, very racist, and listens to Rush. I don't think he's read a book in decades, and he certainly won't read the Mueller report. He's also a very decent man who buried his first wife young and nearly lost his second wife a couple of years ago. She was at the rehab hospital I worked for and he broke my heart when he was on his knees praying and crying for his wife's life. Well, good medicine saved his wife. She would have had zero chance without it. He's a good man, and a good friend and I love him dearly.

The Trump voter is our neighbors in their 70's. He's a retired cop, alcoholic, and needed medication decades ago for his bipolar issues. He's also as is his wife, uneducated, very prejudiced, and neither read or watch anything out of FOX news. We've been neighbors for decades and we are very close. I'll do anything to help them. They both have health issues and we nearly lost him about a year ago.

People are more than votes, and there are as many rich intelligent people who voted for Trump because they love his tax plan. They won big time, honestly, who wouldn't like that if you'r in that economic stratosphere?

Then there are the Evangelicals willing to prostitute every decent value to over turn Roe v Wade. Their myopic view is all they can see. Never mind that their one size must fit all is both unrealistic, disrespectful, and closely resembles an ISIS mentality. Well he's only human. Yes he lies and cheats, but they all do.

I have a friend that fell victim to the troll farms and voted for Trump at the last minute. She said that all of the negative information changed her mind. Right after he was elected she said that she had made a mistake.

There's the never Clinton's. Yes I really do understand that.

There is the lunatic fringe haters. The "nationalists" who want only white people in America. I remember one on the news saying that Trump was our only chance to have the America he grew up in. It's ridiculous, it's unrealistic, and people of all colors are here to stay.

I understand the Trump voter and I love them in spite of their political ideologies. Being tribal is not the answer. Being a hate monger is not the answer. Respect is the answer. I'm not going to lose friends over a vote.
This is probably the most bigoted and false piece of pap Iíve ever read on this site.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:32 AM
Status: "Elect a clown? Expect a circus!" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Wrong. I grew up in an Independent Fundamental Baptist church and my father is still a pastor. I grew up believing that America was a once a Christian nation and that we were greatest in the 1950s. Everything was perfect, just like an episode of "Leave it to Beaver." Then the hippie movement happened in the 1960s which destroyed America. I fully understand how Trump supporters think. They are willing and ready to subvert democracy if that's what it takes to get their "Christian nation." That's why Trump and the zeal of his supporters is so frightening to me.

If anyone destroyed America in the '60s it was people like LBJ, McNamara, and Nixon who involved us in a long, bloody, costly war of choice we had no business getting involved in in the first place. May they all inhabit their own special section of hell.
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