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Old 06-10-2019, 06:06 PM
 
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I say do it. What two consenting adults do with their time and money should be their business. Tax it, license it and make sure no one under age or against their will is doing it. And get it off the streets. A win-win.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:45 PM
 
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The idea that one can or should buy sex is disturbing. It is overwhelmingly men who buy sex, it gives them the idea that women and sex are a commodity they are entitled to. It dehumanizes women.

The Netherlands has legalized prostitution and it's increasing the demand, so trafficking is actually getting worse over there because of it. Sex tourism is a big thing there.

Prostitution will unfortunately happen either way, it's as old as time, as there will always be men looking to pay for sex/desperate to have it and there will always be vulnerable women in positions to sell themselves, feeling like they have no other choice. Legalizing it and regulating it can ensure safety and health but it is far from a perfect solution and has other implications.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:49 PM
 
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What 2 consenting adults do with their bodies and their money, should be between them.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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The idea that one can or should buy sex is disturbing. It is overwhelmingly men who buy sex, it gives them the idea that women and sex are a commodity they are entitled to. It dehumanizes women.

The Netherlands has legalized prostitution and it's increasing the demand, so trafficking is actually getting worse over there because of it. Sex tourism is a big thing there.

Prostitution will unfortunately happen either way, it's as old as time, as there will always be men looking to pay for sex/desperate to have it and there will always be vulnerable women in positions to sell themselves, feeling like they have no other choice. Legalizing it and regulating it can ensure safety and health but it is far from a perfect solution and has other implications.
It doesn't dehumanize women any more than men, except when women are forced into prostitution by coercion. Women making stupid decisions to sell their body for cash is their own fault. Rotten men making stupid decisions to give some nasty skank cash for a few minutes of risky sex is their own fault. Both are acting on impulsive thoughts that any sensible person would avoid.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:56 PM
 
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It doesn't dehumanize women any more than men, except when women are forced into prostitution by coercion. Women making stupid decisions to sell their body for cash is their own fault. Rotten men making stupid decisions to give some nasty skank cash for a few minutes of risky sex is their own fault. Both are acting on impulsive thoughts that any sensible person would avoid.
This is a very simplistic way to look at it, unsurprising given your whole post. A lot of women involved in prostitution have either been trafficked (which isn't always the kidnapping scenario people imagine when they hear it, in fact it often happens close to where women and teens live, they are targeted because of their home and life situations, who they are, coerced away and then basically trapped, it is very calculated) or they feel like they have no other option because they come from terrible home lives and backgrounds, lack education, lack skills, are poor, on drugs, mentally ill, etc. It's easy to judge but the situations are truly sad, maybe have more compassion.

I always say that I doubt many women voluntarily go into prostitution, it isn't something we aspire to. It is something society generally looks down upon, even men yet some men will use them no problem. Some may choose it but it isn't like they have a ton of options if they do, or they feel like they don't. They often have very sad stories and are exploited and yes, it is far more dehumanizing for women because they are the ones being paid for use of their bodies intimately. The men, the buyers, have the power - physically and otherwise.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:14 PM
 
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The idea that one can or should buy sex is disturbing. It is overwhelmingly men who buy sex, it gives them the idea that women and sex are a commodity they are entitled to. It dehumanizes women.
What if its an older wealthy woman and a young guy? Or gay men?

It disturbs me that people choose to smoke cigarettes. Not everything is ideal in this world, sometimes you have to compromise.
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The Netherlands has legalized prostitution and it's increasing the demand, so trafficking is actually getting worse over there because of it. Sex tourism is a big thing there.
No "trafficking" went away replaced by a legal business. Its like saying marijuana trafficking went up because its legal in many states.

Human trafficking involves the underground stuff where no one outside if it knows what is going on until there is a bust. Its an illegal activity. Of course business will increase. Now neither the men or women need to worry about getting busted for it. Big difference.

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Prostitution will unfortunately happen either way, it's as old as time, as there will always be men looking to pay for sex/desperate to have it and there will always be vulnerable women in positions to sell themselves, feeling like they have no other choice. Legalizing it and regulating it can ensure safety and health but it is far from a perfect solution and has other implications.
Some women choose to do it. Look at the Nevada ranches. They can make a six figure salary and I have watched shows featuring those places and the women seem to fine there. The problem is the stuff on the street and that is what needs to go.

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Old 06-10-2019, 07:21 PM
 
Location: pensacola,florida
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A lot of women involved in prostitution have either been trafficked (which isn't always the kidnapping scenario people imagine when they hear it, in fact it often happens close to where women and teens live, they are targeted because of their home and life situations, who they are, coerced away and then basically trapped, it is very calculated) or they feel like they have no other option because they come from terrible home lives and backgrounds, lack education, lack skills, are poor, on drugs, mentally ill, etc. It's easy to judge but the situations are truly sad, maybe have more compassion.

I always say that I doubt many women voluntarily go into prostitution, it isn't something we aspire to. It is something society generally looks down upon, even men yet some men will use them no problem. Some may choose it but it isn't like they have a ton of options if they do, or they feel like they don't. They often have very sad stories and are exploited and yes, it is far more dehumanizing for women because they are the ones being paid for use of their bodies intimately. The men, the buyers, have the power - physically and otherwise.
I think much of what you said is true.

I do think however that 'IF women were willing to pay for sex ' there would be no shortage of male prostitutes and most of them would go into it voluntarily.I doubt they would be shown any sympathy from anyone.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:23 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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The idea that one can or should buy sex is disturbing. It is overwhelmingly men who buy sex, it gives them the idea that women and sex are a commodity they are entitled to. It dehumanizes women.
Your take on it...

still doesn't give you or anyone else (including the government) the right to dictate two consenting adults.

Trafficking is a labor issue... Some of the countries with the highest incidence of human trafficking are countries that have weak labor laws (or don't have enough to enforce it). Some of them have legalized prostitution others don't. China being one of the biggest offender taking advantage of ladies escaping north korea. .. prostitution is illegal. Treating it as a sex issue is ignoring thousands of victims of other labor types; agriculture, food services, nanny, hospitality.

Also keep in mind that legalized prostitution doesn't necessarily mean that pimping and pandering will be legalized. Sex clubs and brothels that employs women falls under both pimping and pandering.. that won't necessarily be allowed in the US depending on the final laws passed. I personally do NOT want pimping and pandering legalized; it isn't the business I seek to protect but individual rights.

Part of the issue in Netherlands is the requirement to register for sex work and the lift on ban on brothels. It requires the prostitute to sacrifice their greatest asset; anonymity. Pared with less strict regulations on brothels and enforcement has increased the profits for crimes organization.

Legalize sex between consenting adults.. no more.. no less... the parameters of that encounter is irrelevant.

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Old 06-10-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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Dinner, movie, gifts, ring........it's been legal for a long time.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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The idea that one can or should buy sex is disturbing. It is overwhelmingly men who buy sex, it gives them the idea that women and sex are a commodity they are entitled to. It dehumanizes women.

The Netherlands has legalized prostitution and it's increasing the demand, so trafficking is actually getting worse over there because of it. Sex tourism is a big thing there.

Prostitution will unfortunately happen either way, it's as old as time, as there will always be men looking to pay for sex/desperate to have it and there will always be vulnerable women in positions to sell themselves, feeling like they have no other choice. Legalizing it and regulating it can ensure safety and health but it is far from a perfect solution and has other implications.
What consenting adults do in their private life is none of your business.

Do you really think homosexuality is not disturbing? Nature has never intended for the same sex to be together. That’s anti-science and anti-nature.
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