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Old 06-12-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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Talk about missing the point.

It's like you have no comprehension at all. You do understand SAFE injection sites, as opposed to UNSAFE street drugs?

Apparently not.

It is here for all to see.
How do safe injections sites and state-run heroin dens provide an incentive for an addict to get clean? What about alcoholics? Are you going to put a pub in the prison stocked with top shelf liquors and cold-filtered beers? Sheesh.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Haha, neither! You think pharmaceutical grade heroin is not going to kill?
If its abused...sure it will kill. Moderation is the key, like any drug or substance. Besides that, lots of things are deadly if too much is taken, even plain water!
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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methadone is simply a longer lasting heavy narcotic which in fact is worse than other narcotics to detox from i know several people who have been on maintence methadone for ten years of more...


there is the reverse stigma of people wanting to experiment with "illegal" things...
we already have much evidence of the negative effects of prohibition....having people on regulated pharmaceutical pure and measured doses is NOT as bad as putting them in prison because they MUST do bad things to maintain a habit (thievery)


throughout time we have had addicts who are functional and we may not even notice they are addicts if they have fairly good supplies..why is it of any concern to "outside" individuals what they put in their system...FREEDOM anybody??
You say freedom, but expect taxpayers to give prisoners high grade pharmaceutical heroin?
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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You say freedom, but expect taxpayers to give prisoners high grade pharmaceutical heroin?
Well, 'high grade pharmaceutical heroin' is basically pure morphine...in other words, VERY cheap.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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Well, 'high grade pharmaceutical heroin' is basically pure morphine...in other words, VERY cheap.
Who cares? It doesn’t fix the problem, and taxpayers have no choice. I wouldn’t call that freedom. If a junkie wants to be addicted to heroin, they can pay for it themselves. And if they’re in prison, they should not come out of it still junkies.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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Isn't this the reason many were incarcerated - drug dealing or possession? I guess the other heroin facilitation programs have worked so well.

The first such site in North America was opened in 2003 in Vancouver, B.C., a city that is currently experiencing record high levels of heroin and opioid overdoses, despite the original facility, and a second, being in operation. Vancouver is also looking at decriminalizing heroin use in a controversial attempt at reducing drug deaths.

The logic escapes me -- giving more access to drugs will reduce drug deaths? The inmates are running the asylum.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/09/c...-site-inmates/

Liberal logic at it's best...although...if handled correctly, no narcan to be administered ,and no resuscitation if one OD's , the problem might work itself out in time.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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Canadian prison to allow prisoners to inject heroin


Excellent.

Now all the heads, snowbirds, and wastoids will move to Canada and commit their crimes there.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Well, 'high grade pharmaceutical heroin' is basically pure morphine...in other words, VERY cheap.
uhm...morphine is more expensive than heroin
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Who cares? It doesn’t fix the problem, and taxpayers have no choice. I wouldn’t call that freedom. If a junkie wants to be addicted to heroin, they can pay for it themselves. And if they’re in prison, they should not come out of it still junkies.
Would you rather continue paying for YEARS and YEARS of Suboxone and methodone treatment for former heroin addicts, like whats going on in the US right now? The Suboxone doctors office I go to, 99% of the patients are on state medicaid and pay nothing, they have weekly doctor visits, weekly drug screens, and are prescribed Suboxone, which costs about $700 per month, per person...All of this paid by the taxpayers!
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:59 AM
 
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You say freedom, but expect taxpayers to give prisoners high grade pharmaceutical heroin?
the FREEDOM to do whatever one wants with ones own body/life as long as it does NO harm to others is what i refer to...


in the mid 1800s the women's temperance league became a political force to push their idea of upright "moral" behavior on the rest of the US and eventually much of the world....this included booze as well


we have had the common sense to rollback the booze part but nevertheless still cling to various narcotics....


the results ARE in over a hundred years of cleaning up peoples "morals" we have seen NO decline in demand or supply and a tremendous rise in prison population...
this is if anything a health issue that we have criminalized....what gives another the right to takeaway anothers freedom based on unsound policy of immorality in another?



the classic old narcotics such as codeine, morphine and heroin are dirt cheap and cost pennies to produce and could be registered and dispensed by prescription to valid addicts at a fraction of the grief and cost of our "WAR"


if one eliminates all the hustle and bustle of todays war..most will be responsible hold jobs and do every other thing the rest of society does without incident...but this seems beyond manys comprehension
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