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Old 06-11-2019, 06:58 AM
 
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Globalists want to get rid of symbols that represent being an American.. Bringing in people who are from other countries have no ties to this country.. The dems also are brainwashing Americans to hate this country.



Then you have the best generations dying off now. This means this country is definitely headed for a one party totalitarian power that is in the democrat party. They will completely control every person living here and there will be no more American citizenship. Everyone on the planet will be a global citizen. Many control sources are working together , some unknowingly to bring about this transformation . The MSM has been taken over , the democrat party has been taken over, and part of the Republican party has been taken over. When global citizens have more rights that the actual citizens this is a big sign this is happening.. those illegals will vote dem as they are bought off with tax dollars. This country will go bankrupt and their will be no middle class. We are definitely headed there now. Trump has a fight like no other in history. God help us defeat the globalists.


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Old 06-11-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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That part about one nation with liberty and justice for all kinda stumps me, every time.

The same people bitching about the Pledge and National Anthem are the ones hell bent on loading up the courts with their kind of judges.

The Pledge was written as an article in a boys magazine by a socialist.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:17 AM
 
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Globalists want to get rid of symbols that represent being an American.. Bringing in people who are from other countries have no ties to this country.. The dems also are brainwashing Americans to hate this country.



Then you have the best generations dying off now. This means this country is definitely headed for a one party totalitarian power that is in the democrat party. They will completely control every person living here and there will be no more American citizenship. Everyone on the planet will be a global citizen. Many control sources are working together , some unknowingly to bring about this transformation . The MSM has been taken over , the democrat party has been taken over, and part of the Republican party has been taken over. When global citizens have more rights that the actual citizens this is a big sign this is happening.. those illegals will vote dem as they are bought off with tax dollars. This country will go bankrupt and their will be no middle class. We are definitely headed there now. Trump has a fight like no other in history. God help us defeat the globalists.
Alex Jones, is that you?
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:45 AM
 
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And the obsession with actors (does she still act?) continues....
Itís because sheís conservative, thatís why theyíre putting her on a pedestal. They are truly ridiculous.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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No, but it teaches kids to respect our country and what it has stood for all these years. Not saying the pledge is one thing, not standing for it is quite another.

How can you,in good faith actually compare what she did or what Trump has done and claim pity party: take a look at Hillary, talk about pity party!!!!!

she may not have accomplished anything but she did what was right. In case you do not realize it we have something in the bill of rights that mentions freedom of speech. That is what she was exercising.
We're asking 5-year-olds to make a loyalty pledge. How is that patriotic? They are little kids. Vowing their loyalty? They don't even understand what that means.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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First, reread the article. She said she stands for their anthems, no mention was made of pledges. They are not the same thing. It is respectful to stand for other nationís anthems.

Second, through the years I had many Jehovah Witnesses. They ALL stood during the pleadge, not because I made them, but because that was what they did. They had no problem standing, and based on what a couple told me were told by parents/church to do otherwise was disrespectful of the school, they just didnít place their hand over their heart or say the pledge.

Third, that teacher needs to stand. The teacher doesnít have to say the pledge, the teacher certainly doesnít have put their hand over their heart, but they are being disrespectful of their students who do feel itís important to say the pledge.
The Jehovah Witnesses I went to school with did NOT stand during the Pledge. They sat, quietly, while others stood and recited it. The teacher explained at the beginning of the year that some students had issue with the pledge, and that the school AND the student body would respect that, while those students not reciting the pledge were expected to also respect the students who did recite the pledge.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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Pledges of allegiance and loyalty oaths are pointless and ridiculous.

If a person is truly allegiant to a nation or a cause, they have no need to make pledges to that effect, they just continue to be allegiant. If they are not, they would have no qualms about making such a pledge or taking such an oath, then breaking it.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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We in the USA are funny that way, huh? And we like to add rules to it. When my kid was in grade school here in Texas they added the pledge to the Texas flag. I'm a fifth generation Texan and had never recited that pledge in my entire life, never heard it. "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one and indivisible." So, other parents and I during school events are stumbling through this thing, never having recited it before but I guess we were supposed to pretend we've done this all of our lives. In 2007 they added "one state under God". "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible." Which just sounds like word babble to me.
I refuse to say the Pledge because I'm not Christian and I don't believe in it. I'm surprised the extreme hypocrisy of the right wing hasn't left them in a state of perpetual confusion.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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The key to Freedom is the "Free" part. Why demand compliance of a private citizen toward a flag of any country.

We are special because we don't demand our citizens to jump through hoops just to show their allegiance toward the USA. Dissent is as American as apple pie.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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City-Data when liberals make political statements: Shut up and act, Hollywood! TV sucks and I've never heard of movies!

City-data when a conservative makes political statements: MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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