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View Poll Results: Should Trump promise Kim Jong Un protection from CIA spying?
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:32 PM
 
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Je spreekt goed Engels voor een Nederlander, maar waarom geef je om de Amerikaanse politiek?
Ik sprek no Nederlandse.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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Malaysian intelligence had reported in 2017 that Kim Jong Nam was working with the CIA.

WSJ article validating that information is probably a psychology ploy together with the fake stories of purged officials.

No reasonable person would accept Trump's assurance.

It's all very amateurish.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:25 PM
 
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What is so obvious about why He couldnt show us this letter?!
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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If Obama had done anything of what you posted the Republicans would have impeached him yet Traitor Trump gets a pass from them !

Sickening !
Sickening that Obama did noting at all and left it up to the more capable Trump !!! Trump's style is working and its obvious to anyone who notices the ballistic missile and nuclear testing has stopped.
The left wants to complain any time Trump has success and try to turn it into a negative. They would rather see a nuclear war than a Trump success.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:55 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Fascinating watching the left throw absolute faith behind the CIA after decades of trashing them. God forbid someone suggest the CIA isn't 100% trustworthy.

THIS type of blatant hypocrisy is why the D's will have me voting Trump 2020.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:03 PM
 
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No he didn't.

I dont know, I have not heard about that,

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I saw the information about the CIA with respect to his brother or half brother, ..."


these are contradicting statements ( unless you'd like to try for some silly semantics argument that he "saw" the information and didn't "hear" about it ).
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:10 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Bingo.

He's been playing for the other team all along.
Kim-Jong-Un knows that President Won-Dum-**** lies about everything and is only on Team Trump. Any assurances he makes are valid for about five minutes.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:22 PM
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This is disturbing beyond words.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:18 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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I'd like one of the lefties on here to post what Trump should say to/about rocket man. You're the advisor.
Not a lefty--pretty centrist, actually--but here's what I think Mr. Trump should write back to Chairman Kim:

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Dear Chairman Kim,

I certainly appreciate the efforts that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the United States are making towards ending the conflict that has been going on for nearly seventy years. Anything that lessens the tensions, and the potential for another fighting war, on the Korean peninsula, is worth it. Too many Koreans lost their lives in the conflict of 1950 to 1953, and that event should never be repeated.

But before we can make progress beyond what we have achieved so far, I think we should understand what drives us to be who we are. For example, the United States has always stood for freedom--the freedom of an individual to complain about his or her government, or the freedom to follow a religion, or the freedom from government intrusion. There are other examples, of course, but if there was one underlying theme to what drives America, it would be the single word, freedom.

The United States, and the rest of the Western world, look to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and we don't see freedom. We see generations of families put in prison camps for the political opinions of one family member. We see your citizens' lack of freedom to read or watch foreign media that may not be complimentary towards your country. We see your citizens' lack of freedom to leave your country. These are things that we Americans simply cannot comprehend.

Similarly, I am sure that there are many things about America, and the West, that you do not comprehend. I am unsure what they are, but I hope you can explain in your next communication. If we truly want to get along, it seems to me that we can only do so by understanding each other. If your country, and mine, understand what drives each of us, perhaps we can discuss, debate, and ultimately achieve a mutually-beneficial conclusion that works for both of us within that context.

I look forward to your next communication, and I wish you well,

Sincerely, etc.
Try that. There are a few English idioms in there that may not translate well, but it seems diplomatic, acknowledging progress so far, treating North Korea as an equal, willing to continue with the dialogue, but clearly stating what some (not all) sticking points are. I intentionally stayed away from the nuclear weapons topic, as I thought it might exacerbate matters. But it does make clear that America (and by extension, the West) wants change in North Korea before any substantive efforts to finally end the Korean War take place.

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Old 06-12-2019, 02:51 AM
 
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Trump cant control the CIA anyway. They do what they want.

If Trump had any guts, hed disband the damn whole apparatus.
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