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Old 06-11-2019, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Considering all the taxes and cost of driving it seems like one parent who make less than $50,000 are better off staying at home with the children.

In the next several years many states minimum wages are going to rapidly increase so they end up with similar costs to Seattle.

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$1,680 a month or $20,160 for childcare for one child in Seattle because of high minimum wages.

Seattle has one of the highest minimum wages in the country. Many states however are going to have similar minimum wages in the next 5 years.

Wonder if one parent in many states with high minimum wages is going to say after-taxes it's just not worth driving around hours a day and sitting in an office 40 or 50 hours a week and drop out of the workforce.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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The mother should be home with the kids. That’s all I have to say on this subject.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:38 PM
 
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Or the father maybe if that's what suits the family better.

$20,000 is presumably for full time childcare 5 days a week. Many families might not need that, they might have wider family members able to take care of the kid some of the week, one or both parents could work part-time so the childcare hours required are less, it really depends on individual circumstances.

If both are working full time in well paid jobs that they don't want to take a break from to look after pre-school kids then they probably earn enough to pay these costs. I don't think workers in childcare facilities should be made to work for pennies just so that much wealthier people can avoid having to make choices about their family arrangements. If the government thinks there is a wider economic and social issue where women (it usually is women) should be encouraged to keep on with their careers and not drop out of the labor force for a few years then there's the option of subsidising childcare through tax breaks or other means.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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Child care is incredibly expensive everywhere in the US, not just in Seattle. This has very limited connection to minimum wages.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:02 PM
 
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If the low level staff are paid minimum wage then it will be a big factor in costs if that minimum wage is higher, staff costs are a big chunk of overall costs in the childcare sector.

I guess something that could be looked at too reduce costs if regulation like staff to kid ratios etc. If the current regulations are one staff member to every 3 toddlers then costs could be reduced by making that one staff member to every 4 toddlers instead. Obviously safety is a huge factor, you wouldn't want to change ratios so much that the kids are not safe but it is something that could be looked at.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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If the low level staff are paid minimum wage then it will be a big factor in costs if that minimum wage is higher, staff costs are a big chunk of overall costs in the childcare sector.

I guess something that could be looked at too reduce costs if regulation like staff to kid ratios etc. If the current regulations are one staff member to every 3 toddlers then costs could be reduced by making that one staff member to every 4 toddlers instead. Obviously safety is a huge factor, you wouldn't want to change ratios so much that the kids are not safe but it is something that could be looked at.
Looks like the average wage was $12.82 per hour for child care workers in Washington. I would’ve thought they made slightly more.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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$20K in take-home-pay equals ~$28K in earnings before Federal/State/Local/whatever income taxes.
now, considering the EXPENSE of going to work (transportation and all that) and adding to the 28,
here is our calculation: a FULL-time job Without Benefits should have a W-2 of $36K.
any lower, stay home.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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Thank govt licensure for the lack of supply in the face of demand.
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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What is the minimum wage divided by the median rent? That’s the number that matters.
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:29 PM
 
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The mother should be home with the kids. That’s all I have to say on this subject.
Agreed. If the Lord wanted women to be productive members of the workforce, he wouldn't have given them uteri.
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