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Old 06-12-2019, 07:49 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by Cruithne View Post
For goodness sake, I just explained to you that there are a VARIETY of options of ID you can bring.


You don't need to have a bank account, there are other choices, for example a utility bill. You use utilities I take it? Or do you live in a hole in the ground?



I told you, go through the online guide:


https://process.dmv.ny.gov/documentg...PermitNDID.cfm




You don't need ALL of the forms of ID just one or two from each category as per the instructions.


I'm repeating myself today, but:


This is P&OC, we don't let trivial things like facts interfere with a good rant! This your fist day here?
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Original or certified BC. Meaning you have to bring an official copy of some sort, not just a Xerox you made at your office.
No, I have an embossed original bc, thanks.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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No, I have an embossed original bc, thanks.
I was addressing your misstatement that you had to have your original BC.


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Where was that? I'm forced to present the same birth certificate that I did in 1986.

I still have it, good for me; but what about the probable (math) amount of people that cannot produce the "proof" needed? An original birth certificate? Really? Just to renew a valid license so you could fly within your own country?

This has to be legally addressed.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I have to renew my drivers license this year. Ok, I've done that a few times before. No big deal, right?

WRONG!

Now, you must provide your papers if you want to fly DOMESTCIALLY, as in, within the USA!

So, I'm responsible to provide the following PROOF of my existence to the State of NY; after all these years LIVING HERE, to hop a flight to Florida?

Well, I guess so...

"...You have completed DMV’s document guide.
You are eligible for REAL ID


Bring the following documents with you to a DMV office:

Federal or NY State W-2
Must show name and current NY State address.

My NY State License/ID with current NY State address
Must be current or not expired for more than 2 years.
An interim (paper MV-1) license will not be accepted.

Bank Statement
Must show name and current NY State address. Must be issued within 120 days of your DMV office visit. Electronic versions must be printed.

Pay Stub
Must show name and current NY State address. Must be issued within 120 days of your DMV office visit. Electronic versions must be printed.

U.S. Birth Certificate
Must be original or certified. Must be issued by a state or local government. Must show full middle name if applicable...."
____________________________

WHAT!?!?

That wreaks of Un~Constitutional BS! I'm not sure if similar measures are being implemented in other states, but they're here.

https://process.dmv.ny.gov/documentg.../checklist.cfm

I had to do this last month. Was a bit of a pain, but not a massive one. You do not need your original BC

Note, this is not a NY only thing, this is a nationwide to be in compliance with legislation passed back in 2005
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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I got my Read ID in Nevada in 2017. I brought my passport, certified copy of a birth certificate, and a few things showing my address and they didn't even look at some of it.

It's not that big of a deal and not that hard to get.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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It's everywhere. This is simply George W. Bush's policies coming to maturity. After 9/11 when Homeland Security and the TSA were created, very few protested because they were scared and wanted Washington to take care of them. That started the data collection, and is the reason you have to take your shoes off to fly. They have been checking social media accounts, cell phone contents, and walking people in front of x-ray machines for a while, now. This is just the latest in a long line of indignities.

It's only going to get worse as long as we allow it to. The terrorists won a long time ago, aided by the GOP.
The problem with America is that people like you only blame the opposite party while absolving your own party of any blame.

Look at your post. Both parties are making it worse and you pin it all on just the opposite party - because that is what your party leaders want. Sheep mentality. Are you truly ignorant of Democrats' hands in this? If so, you need to stop watching only partisan one sided news sources.

Candidate Obama opposed the Patriot Act. President Obama didn't.

Obama flip flopped on lots of privacy vs security issues.

https://consumercal.blogspot.com/200...reversals.html

Yet you pin it all on the opposite party.


Your party can do this to you, because they know you are a sheep and will bah the party line and blame only the opposite party refusing to hold them accountable.


Also if you think data collection started under GWB, then you are once again outside of the loop. The government had been collecting phone data for decades....both Bush Sr. and Clinton amped this up.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tion/70808616/
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Just my thoughts, it's just another waste of time and money in my opinion.
My wife and I got our new driver's licenses before a trip last year and it did accelerate our times through lines at airports and such.
Fact is they don't do cavity searches (yet anyway) to fly and with knowledge you could create a "butt bomb" that they could not fund.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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Yet, you posted.
I did, to let you know how insignificant your little rant is. And by the responses on here, I’m not the only one who thinks that. Also, looks like your little rant was factually incorrect as well. What a shocker.

Last edited by thefragile; 06-12-2019 at 09:15 AM..
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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For goodness sake, I just explained to you that there are a VARIETY of options of ID you can bring.


You don't need to have a bank account, there are other choices, for example a utility bill. You use utilities I take it? Or do you live in a hole in the ground?



I told you, go through the online guide:


https://process.dmv.ny.gov/documentg...PermitNDID.cfm




You don't need ALL of the forms of ID just one or two from each category as per the instructions.
But then the OP can't be as outraged as he/she wants to be!
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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I did, to let you know how insignificant your little rant is. And by the responses on here, Iím not the only one who thinks that. Also, looks like your little rant was factually incorrect as well. What a shocker.
Oh look, you're a snarky ankle bitting sniveling *******, shocker.
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