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Old 06-11-2019, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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I have to renew my drivers license this year. Ok, I've done that a few times before. No big deal, right?

WRONG!

Now, you must provide your papers if you want to fly DOMESTCIALLY, as in, within the USA!

So, I'm responsible to provide the following PROOF of my existence to the State of NY; after all these years LIVING HERE, to hop a flight to Florida?

Well, I guess so...

"...You have completed DMV’s document guide.
You are eligible for REAL ID


Bring the following documents with you to a DMV office:

Federal or NY State W-2
Must show name and current NY State address.

My NY State License/ID with current NY State address
Must be current or not expired for more than 2 years.
An interim (paper MV-1) license will not be accepted.

Bank Statement
Must show name and current NY State address. Must be issued within 120 days of your DMV office visit. Electronic versions must be printed.

Pay Stub
Must show name and current NY State address. Must be issued within 120 days of your DMV office visit. Electronic versions must be printed.

U.S. Birth Certificate
Must be original or certified. Must be issued by a state or local government. Must show full middle name if applicable...."
____________________________

WHAT!?!?

That wreaks of Un~Constitutional BS! I'm not sure if similar measures are being implemented in other states, but they're here.

https://process.dmv.ny.gov/documentg.../checklist.cfm

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Old 06-11-2019, 07:53 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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And yet, illegal aliens are allowed to fly without anything.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:56 PM
 
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It's rolling out to all states in stages.

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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It's everywhere. This is simply George W. Bush's policies coming to maturity. After 9/11 when Homeland Security and the TSA were created, very few protested because they were scared and wanted Washington to take care of them. That started the data collection, and is the reason you have to take your shoes off to fly. They have been checking social media accounts, cell phone contents, and walking people in front of x-ray machines for a while, now. This is just the latest in a long line of indignities.

It's only going to get worse as long as we allow it to. The terrorists won a long time ago, aided by the GOP.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Yes, looks like this was passed in 2005. Republican president and Congress.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Never Never Land
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Or just use your passport to fly if you have one.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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The only difference here is that for a long time they'd give out drivers licenses with very little solid documentation and so there were a lot of fakes out there.

This process tightens up the verification that you actually are whom your license says.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
It's everywhere. This is simply George W. Bush's policies coming to maturity. After 9/11 when Homeland Security and the TSA were created, very few protested because they were scared and wanted Washington to take care of them. That started the data collection, and is the reason you have to take your shoes off to fly. They have been checking social media accounts, cell phone contents, and walking people in front of x-ray machines for a while, now. This is just the latest in a long line of indignities.

It's only going to get worse as long as we allow it to. The terrorists won a long time ago, aided by the GOP.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2001/s313

Here is the patriot act, along with whom renewed it and the voting behind it.

This bill only had 1 vote against it.

If you are truly interested in these policies you're going to have to admit you have a serious bias problem. Maybe a 12-step partisanship program.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:13 PM
 
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And yet, illegal aliens are allowed to fly without anything.
You have a source for that because I think that's a whoppa.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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The only difference here is that for a long time they'd give out drivers licenses with very little solid documentation and so there were a lot of fakes out there.

This process tightens up the verification that you actually are whom your license says.
Where was that? I'm forced to present the same birth certificate that I did in 1986.

I still have it, good for me; but what about the probable (math) amount of people that cannot produce the "proof" needed? An original birth certificate? Really? Just to renew a valid license so you could fly within your own country?

This has to be legally addressed.
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