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Old 06-12-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by Gungnir View Post
Its not an imaginary Baker. In your scenario you are the Baker.

Would you do it?

Since you squirmed I suspect not. Which means that in principle you actually agree that there are certain requests that demand the agency to refuse.

So we'd need to explore what the scope of those requests are, and the scope of reasons for refusal.


Except the person in question is not actually a baker, assumedly.


So, yes, the baker is indeed imaginary.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:28 AM
 
Location: USA
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So we would be a more free country, if we went back to the days when blacks and other minorities were legally discriminated against.
Why do you always have to make it about RACE? We are past that. Business owners want to make money. Of course there is still prejudices, and we ALREADY HAVE ANTI DISCRIMNATION LAWS. With you Libs it is always arguing in the absurd extreme. It is immature and dishonest.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:29 AM
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Location: Columbia, SC
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It's awfully weird to me when business owners choose not to do business with someone over politics. I don't get it. If I owned a business, I'd welcome all sides of the aisle, Trump lovers, haters, gays, straight, bisexuals.... all religions, everyone. I thought people went into business to, I don't know, make money. But apparently not
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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So we would be a more free country, if we went back to the days when blacks and other minorities were legally discriminated against.
No one is suggesting this. It's a false dichotomy.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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Anyone else giggling over the refusal to make a "gender transition cake"? Or a "gay wedding cake"? Cakes are straight, dammit. They are either chocolate or vanilla. Red Velvet cakes are confused. Don't even get me started on lemon or coconut.
That's like saying flags are only pieces of cloth. Some ppl don't want to be associated with immorality even if it is merely symbolic.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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So let's say every landlord in a particular city refuses to rent to black people because none of them want to or like black people. Still okay, for people of one race to be denied leases in the entire city and have to live elsewhere?

This is why protections for race exist in the first place, other protected classes as well. To protect from arbitrary "I don't like you because reasons and it's my business so I can do what I want" people on a power trip, thinking that because they own a business they can truly freely discriminate.
The problem is sexual orientation should have never been deemed a protected class. It's a complete farce.
For example, what would you say if it involve someone sexually oriented to be attracted only to minors? Would it be ok to refuse to rent to them even if they have never acted on those impulses? I guaranteed most ppl wouldn't feel comfortable with that yet it's a sexual orientation. They should be protected, right?
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:37 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I'd make the cake just to get rid of them and charge them dearly. There might be some spit or worse mixed in the cake batter but they are welcome to it.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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So we would be a more free country, if we went back to the days when blacks and other minorities were legally discriminated against.
That certainly isn't what was meant I don't think. The op is asking about a service. To me, if it is a privately owned service the owners have every right to choose they service unless by refusing they are damaging someone. What has always been above my wildest imagination is: why in the heck would someone want to force the issue? Find a bakery that will accommodate requests.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why do you always have to make it about RACE? We are past that. Business owners want to make money. Of course there is still prejudices, and we ALREADY HAVE ANTI DISCRIMNATION LAWS. With you Libs it is always arguing in the absurd extreme. It is immature and dishonest.
But to quote you once again: "I don't understand the entire concept of FORCING businesses, and business owners to do anything they don't want to do. It is THEIR business! They should be able to refuse to do things just based upon their ownership rights." Who knows how many business owners would discriminate if they legally could? To quote you again, "Of course there is still prejudices". So, no doubt, you're in conflict with yourself! So, no, Pilot1, while this country has made progress, sadly, it isn't past racism. And what you wrote doesn't help the situation at all.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It's awfully weird to me when business owners choose not to do business with someone over politics. I don't get it. If I owned a business, I'd welcome all sides of the aisle, Trump lovers, haters, gays, straight, bisexuals.... all religions, everyone. I thought people went into business to, I don't know, make money. But apparently not
totally agree with you even if I do believe the business owner does have the right to make his/her own choices.
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