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Old 06-13-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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I can relate. I know many liberals that are like that. They can't seem to stop themselves with their daily rants about Trump. Everything triggers them if it's something on TV or just walking into a store or a family event they have to start trashing Trump and his supporters. They are so full of rage and hatred that's it's unbelievable.
Probably because the media hates Trump's guts with an unbridled passion. The likes of which I'd never witnessed in my lifetime. It's Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) 24/7. From the clothes that he wears to the way the wind blows his hair on any given day. The big headline the other day was that Melania wore sunglasses at the D-Day commemorations earlier this week in France. Never mind that there were veterans sitting in the audience that wore sunglasses too. That's how petty they've become. For those that would never vote for a Republican the media is poring gasoline on their fire with their relentless hatred of Trump, his entire family and anything even remotely associated with them. Josef Goebbels was indeed correct in that propaganda if repeated often enough eventually becomes the truth. It's the most powerful weapon on earth. The mass media by and large has become the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party from the entertainment industry to most of the major so-called news networks.

Granted that Trump brought a lot of this on himself by not being politically correct and speaking his mind regardless of what anyone thinks. His childish name calling and his performance during the Republican primaries didn't help matters either. I swear to God once he secured the nomination I never in my wildest dreams ever thought that he could win the presidency. However I did vote for him and will again as I would never vote for a Democrat no matter who their nominee is for ANY public office. I've had my fill of both them and their policies when I was living in New York.

Not voting was never an option for me and I don't believe in voting for a 3rd party candidate. If a 3rd party candidate won we could end up with someone that 66% of the country would be opposed to if the 66% were split evenly and the 3rd party candidate got 34% of the vote. God forbid if someone like Sanders or Ocasio-Cortez ever becomes president. So for me it's gotta' be the lessor of the two evils that being a Republican.

Now that Trump's president, I can't say that I'm sorry for voting for him. Especially because of his stance on the illegal invasion of this nation. He's brought that front and center as a major problem that must be solved by closing our borders. The United States of America is becoming the world's dumping ground for it's most impoverished poorly educated populations. There's no way in hell that we can support them all without eventually bankrupting just about every man, woman and child living in this country today and into the future. It's just not sustainable. The only one's that want this to continue are those who wish to turn this nation into an authoritarian third world socialist welfare state of which the oligarchs will have absolute power and control over our everyday lives. For them the illegal invaders are merely a means to that end.

But the $64,000 question is what will it take for many Americans to finally wake up before it's too late?

 
Old 06-13-2019, 07:51 PM
 
Location: New York
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But politics is linked to our identity, our ideas, what we believe. In a way it describes who we are. If we are hateful, if we are kind, if we are gullible, if we have decent values, so it does come first before family.

I don't know if I'm right but that's how it seems. We'd so focused on politics that it's shaping who we are. Then who we are is deciding whether or not we can even get along with our family. Somebody needs to come along and help us to find how much we are alike instead of always how much we are different.
If we are hateful? Politics should be civil, we are civilized after all. If politics makes one hate another person simply because they hold a different view that is a psychological problem. Not at all normal.

I hope you are wrong. It used to be we went through a political cycle for a few months to a year. Now, the cycle never ends. Politics has become a war between two sides for power over this country.

BOTH sides are ignoring their electorate once in power.

Politics before family? Party before country? That's backassward! Sorry, nothing comes before family!

In fact, if politicians did their jobs "CONSTITUTIONALLY" none of us would have to worry about politics that much at all.

Politicians and the parties have become corrupt. Now we have to worry about globalists, industrial military complexes, countries screwing with our elections, political parties screwing with our elections, social and traditional media screwing with our elections, DOJ-FBI-CIA screwing with our elections. We are being burned by the most corrupt people on the planet pretending to be patriots and care about the American way of life. BS!

Unless people get a clue, a REAL CLUE instead of being "woke" because it's cool, this country will become a banana republic in a heartbeat.

Here is what we will all get. Death in a pretty wrapper:
https://davidharrisjr.com/politics/o...-city-council/


I don't "hate" people like her. I just know better than to believe the lies she spouts. I know she is dangerous, more than Omar, Tlaib, and Cortez.
 
Old 06-13-2019, 07:56 PM
 
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My brother in law's nephew and his husband have continued to disown him. They were supportive when he came out 30 years ago, and took him in for a little while when he was a teenager because his mom was a drunk. It's pretty sad.
So... anyone who's lost a friend or relative because you voted for Trump or admitted you're conservative... have you patched things up?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnYUbkVWglc
We had all of our liberal relatives involuntarily committed to insane asylums. It turns out they are happy there, as they are finally among like minded people.
 
Old 06-13-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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Here is what we will all get. Death in a pretty wrapper:
https://davidharrisjr.com/politics/o...-city-council/
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you." ("My vas pokhoronim!")

“We can’t expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have communism.

“We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.”

This is a quote attributed to the late Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev while speaking at the Polish Embassy in Moscow on November 18, 1956.
 
Old 06-13-2019, 09:18 PM
 
Location: New York
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"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you." ("My vas pokhoronim!")

“We can’t expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have communism.

“We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.”

This is a quote attributed to the late Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev while speaking at the Polish Embassy in Moscow on November 18, 1956.

Let's not forget he also said: "we will hang the US with their own rope".


This is how communists think. Look at how fascists use violence to force people to bend to their will, under the guise of being anti-fascist (ANTIFA). Stupid ignorant fools are they.


I must say it takes a special level of ignorance to go to a protest wielding pikes and shields with PEACE and LOVE painted on them, knowing you intend to hurt people.
 
Old 06-13-2019, 09:51 PM
 
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My family is black.
...people I liked in school have stopped talking to me (after savagely insulting me, calling me a "white supremacist"
A brilliant example of Loony Leftist Logic
 
Old 06-13-2019, 10:15 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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My family is Asian American, I was born here in the South, my parents are LEGAL immigrants. My dad escaped communism in China and is very right wing and nationalist toward the US and believes in America First. He has no sympathy for illegal aliens. My mom is a moderate and has voted for both parties but supports Trump. My siblings are apolitical. Most of my cousins on my dad's side are Republicans and mostly Democrats on my mom's side. Religion has a big part to do with it since I am Christian and my dad's side of the family has more Christians which naturally makes us conservative. Like my preacher said in church if you are a Christian the only time you should be liberal is with giving. Both my parents and most people on my dad's side do believe that the government should make life as difficult as possible for illegal aliens (though not all of them think the wall is practical, some do) and believe that Roe vs Wade should be repealed. My mom does believe in global warming which I do not.

Typically we don't talk politics in my family.

In this area, if you're white you are assumed to Republican and if you're black you're assumed to be Democrat. Asians and Hispanics are the ones who are considered unpredictable though in general the more Americanized and assimilated the Asian or Hispanic is, the more conservative and Republican they are. And once again if this Asian or Hispanic is religious, they are much more likely to be conservative.

I will share ONE story though. Once at work I overheard two black coworkers talking about my political views. Typically, at least my experience in the South, when a bunch of non-blacks are together they often openly support Trump and trash Obama, and vice versa with blacks and mixed company is when you don't discuss politics. Being Asian I guess either side doesn't really care and assume I'm more like them. Whites would trash Obama around me and blacks would trash Trump and Republicans around me.

Now I don't discuss politics at work but some people know which car I drive and I do have a Trump bumper sticker, a tea party bumper sticker and a Blue Lives Matter sticker. I am proud of the Confederate flag but I leave that in my home and only my guests see it. One black coworker is new to Louisiana and was telling another black coworker how I can be Asian and support Trump. The black person who is native to here simply responded "We ARE in the South." That's actually quite a meaningful statement in so many ways.
 
Old 06-14-2019, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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We have conservatives and liberals in my family....we generally don't discuss politics much with those of the opposing view. My brother hates Demonacrats and Republicans even more...we can discuss how wicked both parties politicians are. My brother hasn't voted in 25 years.
 
Old 06-14-2019, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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My family is Asian American, I was born here in the South, my parents are LEGAL immigrants. My dad escaped communism in China and is very right wing and nationalist toward the US and believes in America First. He has no sympathy for illegal aliens. My mom is a moderate and has voted for both parties but supports Trump. My siblings are apolitical. Most of my cousins on my dad's side are Republicans and mostly Democrats on my mom's side. Religion has a big part to do with it since I am Christian and my dad's side of the family has more Christians which naturally makes us conservative. Like my preacher said in church if you are a Christian the only time you should be liberal is with giving. Both my parents and most people on my dad's side do believe that the government should make life as difficult as possible for illegal aliens (though not all of them think the wall is practical, some do) and believe that Roe vs Wade should be repealed. My mom does believe in global warming which I do not.

Typically we don't talk politics in my family.

In this area, if you're white you are assumed to Republican and if you're black you're assumed to be Democrat. Asians and Hispanics are the ones who are considered unpredictable though in general the more Americanized and assimilated the Asian or Hispanic is, the more conservative and Republican they are. And once again if this Asian or Hispanic is religious, they are much more likely to be conservative.

I will share ONE story though. Once at work I overheard two black coworkers talking about my political views. Typically, at least my experience in the South, when a bunch of non-blacks are together they often openly support Trump and trash Obama, and vice versa with blacks and mixed company is when you don't discuss politics. Being Asian I guess either side doesn't really care and assume I'm more like them. Whites would trash Obama around me and blacks would trash Trump and Republicans around me.

Now I don't discuss politics at work but some people know which car I drive and I do have a Trump bumper sticker, a tea party bumper sticker and a Blue Lives Matter sticker. I am proud of the Confederate flag but I leave that in my home and only my guests see it. One black coworker is new to Louisiana and was telling another black coworker how I can be Asian and support Trump. The black person who is native to here simply responded "We ARE in the South." That's actually quite a meaningful statement in so many ways.
Nice feedback.

My college roommate was Asian and reared in the South and he also leans conservative for the most part. He is an actor so he keeps his views on the very low down except with close friends like myself.
 
Old 06-14-2019, 04:17 AM
 
Location: USA
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If you have friends or relatives that base their relationship with you on politics, and if you voted for Trump, they are really neither, and not worthy of your time.
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