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Old 06-13-2019, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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They’re now saying it was mines.
Or devices attached to the hull prior to it sailing. They were NOT torpedoes launched from submarines.
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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This article suggest torpedos but who knows....BUT the reason I posted the article from bloomberg their speculation on why these attacks are happening now and although Iran is the obvious one to blame, it is not consistent with what is going on in Iran right now.

I will own being a little frustrated, confused and no expert on the Middle East..
I merely present the info...not knowing if it is way out there or reasonable.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...tanker-attacks
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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So the Japanese Prime Minister is there now. He's a buddy of Trump's right? So maybe the USA can prod the Japanese Prime Minister to question the attacks. One of the ships was going to Japan I think.

Hmmmm.
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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I believe his/her point was that since 2001 (bush, Obama, trump too) we have been bombing, policing, ground sustainment etc in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen, plus a few others.....


its about time we left the middleeast and north Africa to their own demise... enough of these liberal wars
Liberal wars? I must have missed something
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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I wonder if the CIA is trying to distract from the investigation of their corrupt cabal. They are capable of anything so are very dangerous.
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/u...gtype=Homepage


Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Yellow Cake being moved from Africa to Iraq.

I'm not ready to believe that this is what the Administration says it is. Trump has an agenda about Iran and he only tolerates subordinates that are on board with that agenda.
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I wonder if the CIA is trying to distract from the investigation of their corrupt cabal. They are capable of anything so are very dangerous.
Check out Q-anon, and there you'll find your answer.
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:36 PM
 
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Feels a lot like Iraq 2002.

Lots of coincidences that link to Iran immediately without investigations are happening since we moved more assets into the area.

My BS meter is picking up some odors.
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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My BS meter is picking up some odors.
Well I sure hope so, cause if it isn't, it don't work.
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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This article suggest torpedos but who knows....BUT the reason I posted the article from bloomberg their speculation on why these attacks are happening now and although Iran is the obvious one to blame, it is not consistent with what is going on in Iran right now.

I will own being a little frustrated, confused and no expert on the Middle East..
I merely present the info...not knowing if it is way out there or reasonable.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...tanker-attacks
Initial reports said torpedoes and mines, sounds like shifting to just mines now.

Early reports are often wrong and the torpedo comment I believe came from a ship captain but he may have been guessing after being hit twice.

A timed explosive attached in port would be the obvious choice if the attack were desired to impact a certain type of vessel on a certain day etc.

I'm not an expert in mine warfare but that's one of the busiest waterways in the world.

Odds of going 2/2 on tankers the same day....hmmmm.
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