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Old 06-13-2019, 09:47 AM
 
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Hell, Trump is already showing signs of cracking under the stress.
That man has ever only known stress. You wouldn't know the kind of stress of being ostracized by your own peers yet not being able to be like regular ordinary folk, but it made him president. You people on the left severely underestimate Trump. He's just on the opposite spectrum of what most of you feel.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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This isn't rocket science -- lol.

Of course 'some' struggle more than others.

What's disturbing is the language he used. By suggesting some aren't strong -- it implies those people are weak.

That's not exactly what a vet with PTSD needs to hear from his Commander in Chief.

Trump has a duty as a President to use his words carefully.
This is all true.

Seeing Trump speak in older videos, it seems he used to choose his words more carefully. Not so much anymore. I do not suffer from TDS, but I do believe he has gotten more narcissistic as he aged.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:51 AM
 
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That man has ever only known stress. You wouldn't know the kind of stress of being ostracized by your own peers yet not being able to be like regular ordinary folk, but it made him president. You people on the left severely underestimate Trump. He's just on the opposite spectrum of what most of you feel.
We all do, but most of us learn to socialize and grow out of it in grade school. Some momma's boys just never grow up.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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We all do, but most of us learn to socialize and grow out of it in grade school. Some momma's boys just never grow up.
When you're at the bottom socializing comes out of necessity to survive. For Trump, it's the other way around, the people in his class will only destroy him if he ever gave them the chance.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:59 AM
 
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Not surprising. He shows an utter lack of compassion toward our vets (isn't his base supposed to be all for caring for our vets?). In effect, Trump's old school ways are showing - namely a crude understanding of free will and mental health. If President Bonespurs hasn't been through it, he has no room to be talking about it. In short, it's sheer reptilian brainstem contempt for what he perceives as weakness and nothing more.



Uhhhh, his basebrain reptilian impulse's ways of sizing up a person's worth, perhaps?

His "knowing" that "normal, decent, self-respecting men with strong backbone" would have contempt for people who can't overcome mental trauma on their own?

Trump's idea of a soldier is some Duke Nukem look-alike who thinks M1A1 rifles are just popgun p**** sh**, throws it contemptuously to the ground, and grabs a "machine AT-4", an enhanced AT-4 that shoots 750 anti-tank rounds a minute just as a machine gun shoots 750 rounds a minute. Then, after a minute of boiling explosions, he does a Deadliest Warrior victory growl. The more cartoonishly macho the soldier, the better.


Someone really captured the old cartoon:

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Old 06-13-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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I have a theory about the explosion of PTSD in our soldiers.

1) Our damn wars never end.
2) Our military relies on a far smaller group of people and asks a lot from them.
3)Our guys can be across the world fighting for their lives one day and 3 days later can be home at a child’s birthday party expected to fit right in with peaceful society.

My Dad was a WWII vet and even though I believe he saw some terrible things he never showed any signs of it for a couple of reasons

1) He knew he was in a war to win
2) He was always with thousands of soldiers and knew he had the full support of the country
3)When his time was up it took him 9 months to get home on ships. All the time he was playing cards, doing PT, doing chores with guys who went through what he went through. They had the opportunity to talk about it.
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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I have a theory about the explosion of PTSD in our soldiers.

1) Our damn wars never end.
2) Our military relies on a far smaller group of people and asks a lot from them.
3)Our guys can be across the world fighting for their lives one day and 3 days later can be home at a child’s birthday party expected to fit right in with peaceful society.

My Dad was a WWII vet and even though I believe he saw some terrible things he never showed any signs of it for a couple of reasons

1) He knew he was in a war to win
2) He was always with thousands of soldiers and knew he had the full support of the country
3)When his time was up it took him 9 months to get home on ships. All the time he was playing cards, doing PT, doing chores with guys who went through what he went through. They had the opportunity to talk about it.
Society tolerated drinking a lot more then too, people drove home drunk like it was normal.
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:17 AM
 
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I wonder if this was another spur of the moment quote from Mr. Bonehead!
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger View Post
I have a theory about the explosion of PTSD in our soldiers.

1) Our damn wars never end.
2) Our military relies on a far smaller group of people and asks a lot from them.
3)Our guys can be across the world fighting for their lives one day and 3 days later can be home at a child’s birthday party expected to fit right in with peaceful society.

My Dad was a WWII vet and even though I believe he saw some terrible things he never showed any signs of it for a couple of reasons

1) He knew he was in a war to win
2) He was always with thousands of soldiers and knew he had the full support of the country
3)When his time was up it took him 9 months to get home on ships. All the time he was playing cards, doing PT, doing chores with guys who went through what he went through. They had the opportunity to talk about it.
PTSD existed after WWII, it was called "Shell Shock" back then.

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PTSD—known to previous generations as shell shock, soldier’s heart, combat fatigue or war neurosis—has roots stretching back centuries and was widely known during ancient times.
https://www.history.com/topics/inven...nd-shell-shock
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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This is Trump's opinion. What do you think?



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vet...172839989.html

It never occurs to him that there are things he does not grasp.....

How ignorant of the facts.
How demeaning to those with PTSD.

I wish we could send him over to fight Isis and see how he returns...??? A d@mn baby who'd likely never recover.
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