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Old 06-13-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Joey2k View Post
"Until a baby is born and breathes life it is not a true person."

I am not sure how else that statement could possibly be read.
Just exactly what stage of pregnancy are you referring? You think a fetus at the age of ten weeks is a fully formed person?

 
Old 06-13-2019, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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For those of you who are totally against abortion, what are you going to do when women have babies they don't want and can't afford? Are you going to take them in? Pay for them? Comforting these babies when they wake up crying four times each night? Pro-life means respecting life from cradle to grave, after all. What's the plan after they are born? After these bans are enacted, there are consequences. This is real life. It's messy. It's not ideal. The problem won't magically solve itself just because Louisiana bans abortion. Once they are born, our taxes will go up, because the children will need CHIP, SNAP, and Food Stamps. Are you willing to pay more taxes?
Give it up for heaven's sake. Most people who have abortions may not want their babies but it isn't because they can't afford them. There are some who really can not, for them I feel bad, but do you know the word adoption and do you have any idea how many couples or even singles would love to have one of those babies?

I do agree the problem will not solve itself but we need to be more concerned about back alley abortions that will increase. Don't worry so much about after the birth. That problem should solve itself; yes, with adoption. Most abortions are preformed due to lack of self control and the lack of using birth control. I am certainly not saying all by any means. I am more upset about the woman who is too lazy to use protection but too selfish to carry the baby and give it up. Oh, and yes, the father is also responsible.

Let me also add, you talk about CHIP, SNAP and food stamps. I do believe SNAP is the same as food stamps.

If you believe so strongly about abortion being ok how do you feel about kids being brought across the border expecting us to support them?

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Old 06-13-2019, 03:32 PM
 
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Where are the adoption agencies that are going to take in all of these millions of children and find them all "good" homes? LOL. In a fairy tale, but not anywhere in the US.
We have 22,000 kids age out of foster care now annually. Well double. That for sure.
 
Old 06-13-2019, 03:33 PM
 
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Just exactly what stage of pregnancy are you referring? You think a fetus at the age of ten weeks is a fully formed person?
There is no such thing as fully formed person ... It's a person, period...
 
Old 06-13-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Eeyore1954 View Post
The first step is the people involved should take the necessary precautions to avoid pregnancy.
The second is if they do get pregnant they should be responsible for the child.
Third if they either cannot or do not want the child the baby should be put up for adoption
Finally I am willing to pay the taxes to help when the parents cannot afford it.



Good, you can pay my part too.
 
Old 06-13-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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There is no such thing as fully formed person ... It's a person, period...
And should they be given social security numbers? Health insurance? You didn't answer.

6 week fetus, officially registered with the government?
 
Old 06-13-2019, 03:36 PM
 
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There is no such thing as fully formed person ... It's a person, period...
No sorry there is. Fully developed a better word? When we’re born we are developed and fully formed. Until then we’re just workin on it. Birth makes you conscious. You don’t have to agree
 
Old 06-13-2019, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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That's ridiculous though. What about people that take necessary precautions and still end up pregnant by accident? Making them put the baby up for adoption is extreme.
Well first of all, the number of pregnancies that occur due to accidents when using precautions is so rare it isn't worth mentioning and second, no one is making anyone put the baby up for adoption. It is one alternative, it isn't for everyone but it is a hell of a lot better than taking the baby's life.
 
Old 06-13-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Imaginary danger is not real danger... You could be hit by car therefore you should never leave your house? Just because it is very small doesn't mean it is very real.. using it as an excuse, doesn't strengthen your argument ...
Good grief.

Why don't you go stand over a woman's grave who died from childbirth, go talk to her family......and tell them she is not really dead......the danger to her life was all imaginary. She probably faked her death and ran away.

How in the hell can you call being DEAD imaginary?

https://www.cdc.gov/reproductiveheal...dmortality.htm

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The death of a woman during pregnancy, at delivery, or soon after delivery is a tragedy for her family and for society as a whole. Sadly, about 700 women die each year in the United States as a result of pregnancy or delivery complications.
Are these women's deaths insignificant to you? Would you tell their families that they didn't really matter?

Again I will ask, who the hell are you to tell a woman what risks she has to take with her life?
 
Old 06-13-2019, 03:45 PM
 
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Well first of all, the number of pregnancies that occur due to accidents when using precautions is so rare it isn't worth mentioning and second, no one is making anyone put the baby up for adoption. It is one alternative, it isn't for everyone but it is a hell of a lot better than taking the baby's life.
Say what? About half of women who have abortions were using birth control when they got pregnant. Accidents (birth control failure) aren’t at all rare.

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-rele...th-they-became
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