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Old 06-21-2019, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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It has everything to do with personhood.

And legal terms? Are very concrete.

Do you think a black slave was 3/5 of a person?
The three fifths compromise never said a slave was three fifths of a person. It said that three fifths of the number of slaves would be used to determine representation in the House of Representatives.

You might want to actually read the link.

By the way, the states with larger numbers of slaves would have been happy to count the entire slave population, because it would have increased their number of representatives.

Still has nothing to do with the fact that abortion is not murder.

 
Old 06-21-2019, 02:59 PM
 
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The three fifths compromise never said a slave was three fifths of a person. It said that three fifths of the number of slaves would be used to determine representation in the House of Representatives.

You might want to actually read the link.

By the way, the states with larger numbers of slaves would have been happy to count the entire slave population, because it would have increased their number of representatives.

Still has nothing to do with the fact that abortion is not murder.
Think again.
 
Old 06-21-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Have any of the "what are you going to do with all of these children" types ever considered that when you can't treat PP like a drive thru, they'll exercise more caution when they decide they can't resist that guy because "he's so hot, omg!"
 
Old 06-21-2019, 03:16 PM
 
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Testimony from an abortionist who performed 1200 abortions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZXQBhTszpU
 
Old 06-21-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Have any of the "what are you going to do with all of these children" types ever considered that when you can't treat PP like a drive thru, they'll exercise more caution when they decide they can't resist that guy because "he's so hot, omg!"
What about men who can't resist women and pressure them to have sex. From what I've seen, men have even less control over their sex drive than women do. Do these men ever consider the potential consequences, such as an unintended pregnancy/abortion? Many men, even here, have admitted they hate using condoms and won't wear them.

A woman can't get pregnant all by herself. It takes two people to make a baby.
 
Old 06-21-2019, 03:44 PM
 
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What about men who can't resist women and pressure them to have sex. From what I've seen, men have even less control over their sex drive than women do. Do these men ever consider the potential consequences, such as an unintended pregnancy/abortion? Many men, even here, have admitted they hate using condoms and won't wear them.

A woman can't get pregnant all by herself. It takes two people to make a baby.
Do you not know the word no?
 
Old 06-21-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Think again.
Please provide a link to any law that defines abortion as murder.
 
Old 06-21-2019, 04:38 PM
 
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What about men who can't resist women and pressure them to have sex. From what I've seen, men have even less control over their sex drive than women do. Do these men ever consider the potential consequences, such as an unintended pregnancy/abortion? Many men, even here, have admitted they hate using condoms and won't wear them.

A woman can't get pregnant all by herself. It takes two people to make a baby.
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Do you not know the word no?
Answering the question with another question, doesn’t answer the question. As I mentioned to old glory a few post back, what’s first or chicken or the egg? In cases of unwanted pregnancy, the horses already left the barn now what. It takes two for sure. men should man up and and mind their sperm in way larger numbers than they do now. Men seem to think they have less responsibilities because they don’t have a uterus. Sorry wrong just because a man doesn’t carry the kid for 9 months, doesn’t mean he isn’t just as responsible as the woman. Men should mind their emissions. Society punishes the woman because she has the uterus. If she gets pregnant from recreational sex and ends up with an unwanted pregnancy, she’s a ***** or a loose woman with no morals. If she has an abortion and talks about it you anti-choice folks like to call her a murderer. Telling a woman to close your legs and, or not suggesting the same thing, to a man sexist BS
 
Old 06-21-2019, 05:04 PM
 
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What about men who can't resist women and pressure them to have sex. From what I've seen, men have even less control over their sex drive than women do. Do these men ever consider the potential consequences, such as an unintended pregnancy/abortion? Many men, even here, have admitted they hate using condoms and won't wear them.

A woman can't get pregnant all by herself. It takes two people to make a baby.
Pressure? It's not pressure unless it's rape. A woman can still say no if the man is not forcing her to have sex with him, right?

Once again, men don't get pregnant even though it takes a male and female to get pregnant. What part of that aren't you pro-abortion people getting? If the man refuses to wear a condom the woman can't just say no then? The arguments used by you and yours are ridiculous.
 
Old 06-21-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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Pressure? It's not pressure unless it's rape. A woman can still say no if the man is not forcing her to have sex with him, right?

Once again, men don't get pregnant even though it takes a male and female to get pregnant. What part of that aren't you pro-abortion people getting? If the man refuses to wear a condom the woman can't just say no then? The arguments used by you and yours are ridiculous.

One might say that the anti-choicers/antiwomen's rights coalition have arguments that appear ridiculous and phony to the pro-choice folks. These groups like to proselytize under the banner of pro-life, but that seems sketchy to me.

You see pro-choice people believe that women have the basic human right to decide when and whether to have children, based on their own moral and religious beliefs, even though they themselves may not choose abortion as an option for an unplanned pregnancy. Once again, pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion.

That being said, in these posts you are saying if a woman is willing to have sex, she's knowingly taking the risk of getting pregnant. That implies that it's a woman's responsibility to bear a child if she chooses to have sex. That sounds suspiciously like you're dictating what a woman's role and purpose is, and a lot less like an argument about the life of a child. The anti-choicers and anti-women coalition are saying that, by merely choosing to have sex — with or without a condom — a woman becomes responsible for having a child. And that's a belief that has everything to do with judging a woman's behavior, and nothing to do with the value of life.

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