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Old 06-13-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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I do not support war with Iran at all. But if you are being honest both sides have been threatening each other.
If we stop with all the globalist BS and become nationalists, we can stop bombing foreigners who don't want to follow our orders.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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Trump really surrounded himself with war hawks, here is some VP Pence :


The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Pence Goes to War: America Will Be Fighting Forever
oh boy. yeah that speech makes him a war hawk just like trumps grab em by the p is tantamount to admitting to sexual assault.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:33 PM
 
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If we stop with all the globalist BS and become nationalists, we can stop bombing foreigners who don't want to follow our orders.
fine with me...let the arabs continue killing each other for another 1,000 years....you aint ever gonna stop it
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:35 PM
 
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fine with me...let the arabs continue killing each other for another 1,000 years....you aint ever gonna stop it
Agreed, we have zero business sticking our noses in their business. Our globalist policies were the fuel for 911. And, we learned NOTHING.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Liberal or conservative, we've all got to well remember how we ended up invading Iraq, contrary to much objection by both liberals and conservatives. Right? Now too all this with Iran. When do we stop accepting this sort of executive lead toward war rather than perhaps requiring at least some better level of scrutiny and strategy? Perhaps better suited for Congress at least?

Just Trump now instead?

I mean aside from all other innocents who are likely to die as a result of these sorts of conflicts, American soldiers are both liberal and conservative and deserving of better reasons to put their lives on the line...

US gears up for war with Iran

Can a state that condemns, without real justification, an international disarmament treaty it spent years negotiating then threaten a co-signatory with military aggression? Can it order other countries to fall into line with its capricious, bellicose stance or face punitive sanctions?

https://mondediplo.com/2019/06/01edito

Is all we need for Trump to say so?
With Iraq, people had reasons to believe it was true because the military, CIA, Colin Powell etc all made a case for it. It all turned out to be a Bush lie. This time hardly anyone it taking Trump seriously since he lies about EVERYTHING.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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With Iraq, people had reasons to believe it was true because the military, CIA, Colin Powell etc all made a case for it. It all turned out to be a Bush lie. This time hardly anyone it taking Trump seriously since he lies about EVERYTHING.
Lol.

Clinton and the DNC started those lies and beat the hell out of the war drums.

But go ahead and say warby your guys is ok, because you like them.

BTW, Bush didn't lie, he was just wrong.

And if we abandon globalism, we can avoid it in the future.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:21 PM
 
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Agreed, we have zero business sticking our noses in their business. Our globalist policies were the fuel for 911. And, we learned NOTHING.
Iran is a gold mine for investing capital. The country has very low debt and American companies are for the most part absent. Average people have zero interest in regime change, but people with big capital that's a quite different matter, they have enough power to steer policies which lead to war.

Israel and Saudi Arabia are the ones holding the biggest drums for war. These two countries are linked to 9/11. Netanyahu himself said 9/11 was good for Israel.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-W6LdB24-wU

The modus operandi is attack then comes wars. There has been several incidents close to Iran but all have failed to lead to war. The Israeli (Clawson works for a pro-Israel institution) explain it better.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LTcCivoG3mo

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Old 06-14-2019, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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oh boy. yeah that speech makes him a war hawk just like trumps grab em by the p is tantamount to admitting to sexual assault.
What? the speech had U S troops fighting all over the world. Could anyone made a more war mongering speech then that? I guess Pence could have thrown in nukes.
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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There will be no war. Just stop. Nobody wants that, especially Trump.
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:07 AM
 
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Just gas or nuke that whole area and be done with it.
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