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Old 06-20-2019, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Being accused is meaningless and that especially applies in this day and age of fake political hit jobs being staged nonstop.
Your point is somewhat weakened by the fact that Hastert admitted it and served 15 months in jail.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:17 AM
 
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https://www.cernovich.com/pizzagate-...es-sandy-hook/




The media is now reporting that Alex Jones has been sending those illegal images to people, leaving out the context of what actually happened.
The FBI is treating Alex Jones as the victim of a crime, and their investigation has shown that no one from InfoWars had any knowledge that their email accounts contained illegal images.
Some may say that Jones “deserves” to be lied about because of his own past conspiracy theorizing, and if that’s the standard, then there is no standard.
Yes, theories and opinions are illegal now...

No more talking about UFOs, grassy knolls or Elvis anymore.

Here's a theory - this is an attack on freedom of speech and freedom of thought. Where does it end? As long as some idea is presented as a "theory" with a disclaimer, it should fall under freedom of speech.

As to the porn, someone sent these hidden files to Jones through an email, it happens. The other attorney should not be blaming Jones' attorney for not knowing about them, and Jones should not be accusing the other attorney, but this is how these battles go - a blame game. Seems it's just some random person who sent those files to Jones but it would be nice if it could be traced back to who actually sent the images, so they can be prosecuted for possessing and transmitting child porn like the sex criminal they are.
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Old 06-20-2019, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
Except not. Alex Jones lies, you haven't figured that out by now?

Here's what actually happened:
  1. Plaintiff's lawyers request a dump of Alex Jones' emails as part of discovery.
  2. Alex Jones' lawyer - being an idiot - sends the entire contents of Alex Jones' inbox to the plaintiffs.
  3. The plaintiff's lawyers discover child porn in the email dump.
  4. Alex Jones has meltdown on air. (This bullet point is superfluous, he pretty much always does.)
  5. Alex Jones' followers decide he's the victim. (Because of course they do.)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...-porn-63770292

So your hero lied to you and made you repeat it. How does that make you feel? A bit used? Manipulated, perhaps?
Jones subsequently claimed he was “ unhinged” when he made threats to the plaintiff’s attorney. He does not know who sent him email with attachments.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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Yes, theories and opinions are illegal now...

No more talking about UFOs, grassy knolls or Elvis anymore.

Here's a theory - this is an attack on freedom of speech and freedom of thought. Where does it end? As long as some idea is presented as a "theory" with a disclaimer, it should fall under freedom of speech.
Just say the magic words and libel laws aren't a thing any more. That's - brilliant. Anyway, the courts have spent many years drawing the line between constitutionally protected opinion and assertions masquerading as opinion. There's all sorts of context to consider.

And as it happens, Alex Jones isn't smart enough to even wear that tiny fig leaf.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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Jones subsequently claimed he was “ unhinged” when he made threats to the plaintiff’s attorney.
That's an Alex Jones defense if I ever heard one. "Surely the law doesn't apply if I'm unhinged."
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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Just say the magic words and libel laws aren't a thing any more. That's - brilliant. Anyway, the courts have spent many years drawing the line between constitutionally protected opinion and assertions masquerading as opinion. There's all sorts of context to consider.
I'm not sure about that. It seems some people have more rights to opinions and assertions than others.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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I'm not sure about that. It seems some people have more rights to opinions and assertions than others.
That's a point of view, certainly.
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Old 06-21-2019, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Alex Jones Unveils Strategy Of Calling Plaintiffs’ Counsel A ‘Little White Jewboy Jerkoff Son Of A *****’

Jones, who repeatedly called the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre a “false flag” operation, is being sued in Texas and Connecticut by parents he accused of faking their own children’s death. Plaintiffs demanded email metadata as part of discovery

consultants flipped their sh*t when they found an illicit image [child pornography] in an email attachment. Plaintiffs’ lawyers called the FBI, as mandated by federal law, and the feds discovered “numerous additional illegal images

Jones offered a million-dollar reward for the arrest and conviction of the person who sent him the illegal images while intimating that it was mighty coincidental that the plaintiffs’ lawyers found the images and reported them to the FBI

[During his show, Jones] pounded his fist on a picture of plaintiff’s counsel Chris Mattei, screaming, “We all know who did it,” and threatening, “One million dollars to put your head on a pike.” And later added "Chris Mattei. What a good American. What a good boy. You think you’ll put on me, what—[under his breath] I’m gonna kill . . . [growls]" before referring to Chris Mattei as “a white Jewboy that thinks he owns America” and “a little, white Jewboy jerkoff son of a *****.”

Superior Court Judge Barbara Bellis was not amused, calling the broadcast “indefensible, unconscionable, despicable, and possibly criminal behavior.” Then she barred his motion to dismiss and forced him to pay court costs and fees for the time he wasted making false implications about plaintiffs’ counsel.

What a delightful human being.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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This is the people that support Jones and his brand of BS

https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-...ats-by-the-fbi

Serious or not, it speaks volumes about Jones supporters.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:50 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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June 12th 2013?
It brought you Pizzagate and you see the cover-up that ensued after that.
The Fake News Media was even in on that cover-up.
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