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Once again, if you don't pay your taxes, the government will send people to take them. If you refuse to hand them over, they will threaten you with guns.
This is a FACT.
Nope it's fake news propaganda
If an American refuses to pay their taxes men will show up with paperwork
If you refuse to sign the paperwork they will call other men that drag you out
No guns get put to anyone's head at any time in this entire process
Just listen to yourself
"if you refuse to hand over your taxes they will threaten you with a gun"
No they won't!!!
You can get shot by the police any day of the week if you act like a Savage ....it has nothing to do with whether you paid your taxes or not
There might not be a gun, but there most certainly is prison.
Probably not, but perhaps there should be. A citizen should be able to sign up for a period of indenture to cover their lifetime tax bill. The typical term of indenture was 5 years, and the person had to be able bodied, so they would only be eligible up to perhaps age 30. Upon completion of their indenture, they could then be free of taxes for the rest of their life.
What is selective service if not registration for a draft?
If it doesn't exist why are you required to register for it?
I'm more than happy to defend myself, my friends my family against real enemies. I'm not so happy to be forcibly required to potentially die in a war or corporate greed, and propping up the petro-dollar like the last several.
Because you know they've been solely for economic reasons don't you?
Further I spent a decade in the military, back when I thought that there was more to government than smoke and mirrors. how about you?
I don't remember when they did that, but if they had what is funny about it? You know hundreds of thousands died fighting enemies that literally did execute groups based on nothing but specific traits, we didn't find it too funny that they did this at the time. You might want to think about that.
No you don't, one of the pre-requisites of not paying US taxes is to renounce citizenship. To renounce citizenship you must have alternate residency, with a recognized state, otherwise you still owe the FedGov their pound of flesh. Further one of the conditions for renouncing citizenship is that you are not doing so to avoid paying US taxes, if the adjudicator of your application to renounce your citizenship believes the sole purpose is to avoid US tax liability they can and do refuse.
When you have to request that the tax lien is lifted that's forced, when you never agreed to pay those in taxes in the first place that's tyranny.
The Selective Service exists as an old archaic Vestige of the draft... the draft no longer exists
I was too large to get into the military although I tried to join the Marine Corps I was refused as I was six foot 265 lb of solid muscle and that's over 55 lb too heavy to join
I agree that all recent Wars have been corporate agenda 101 as our government has been taken over by the corporate bribe monsters like Halliburton and KBR... that doesn't mean we should defund the government it means we should make bribery a felony
I was being facetious about them executing the hippies as it is a perfect example that nobody gets a gun put to their head by the government in the United States of America for simple civil discourse
Every American should know that the day they turn 18 they become a sovereign American adult and thus must abide by the rules of this great land
Every single one of us has the opportunity to shove off to unclaimed land where we can live 100% free of government tyranny
The people bitching about My Views don't want to do that t
hey want to cuddle up under the Eagles Wing but not pay their fair share
They're just as bad a bunch of freeloaders as the welfare recipients who lounge around in the ghetto and the trailer parks and make illegitimate babies
Everybody knows that conservatives are the ones taking the money from the corporations
I'm sure it happens in the liberal circles occasionally but the vast majority of corporate bribery is going straight into the pocket of conservative lawmakers
Anyone that can't recognize that we are living under the Yoke of corporate tyranny via political bribery is either foolish or willfully disregarding the facts
They didn't need to defund the government they just rerouted their paycheck from the American people to the big corporate Mega monsters
Keep up preaching against Taxation and you will defund the government completely
once you have defunded the government the corporations are free to operate as they see fit
If an American refuses to pay their taxes men will show up with paperwork
If you refuse to sign the paperwork they will call other men that drag you out
No guns get put to anyone's head at any time in this entire process
Just listen to yourself
"if you refuse to hand over your taxes they will threaten you with a gun"
No they won't!!!
You can get shot by the police any day of the week if you act like a Savage ....it has nothing to do with whether you paid your taxes or not
Once again, the pedantic rant.
The "men" who show up with paperwork have an authority backed by what? A monopoly on force and violence, that's what. That's why if you refuse to sign the paperwork, "other men" are called to "drag you" away.
And what exactly is dragging one away, and what happens if the individual refuses to be so dragged? Well, "dragging away" is having force/violence applied to you as both punishment for lack of cooperation and coercion to discourage further lack of cooperation. All the "dragging" represents is the first rung on the ladder of force escalation, and once again, who possesses a monopoly on force and violence? Ultimately, and both State and individual know this, that State has more force/violence than the individual, and all of their power, threats, coercion, etc is backed by that monopoly power. All roads of resistance end in one of two ways - the individual dead by direct force or locked in a cage until they die of some indirect cause.
The "gun to the head" is inherent and implicit. You know full well that is what ultimately backs the State's claim on your very existence. Thus, taxes are paid because the treat of not paying them scares the individual more than simply handing over whatever loot their mugger demands.
People don't pay their taxes because they are patriots, they do it because they don't want to be punished. For proof, look no further than everyone seeking every possible way to reduce their tax burden come 1040 time. And even then, look at the fine print where your signature goes, where the State issues a treat about you telling the whole truth and nothing but, or ELSE!!
The whole setup is based on threats, and those are backed with a monopoly on force and violence, and mostly figuratively, but in plenty of cases, quite literally, that is indeed the gun to your head.
Now you can keep being pedantic if it keeps the cognitive dissonance away, but everyone else reading this thread gets it, and understands the implicit threat backing everything the State does.
The "men" who show up with paperwork have an authority backed by what? A monopoly on force and violence, that's what. That's why if you refuse to sign the paperwork, "other men" are called to "drag you" away.
And what exactly is dragging one away, and what happens if the individual refuses to be so dragged? Well, "dragging away" is having force/violence applied to you as both punishment for lack of cooperation and coercion to discourage further lack of cooperation. All the "dragging" represents is the first rung on the ladder of force escalation, and once again, who possesses a monopoly on force and violence? Ultimately, and both State and individual know this, that State has more force/violence than the individual, and all of their power, threats, coercion, etc is backed by that monopoly power. All roads of resistance end in one of two ways - the individual dead by direct force or locked in a cage until they die of some indirect cause.
The "gun to the head" is inherent and implicit. You know full well that is what ultimately backs the State's claim on your very existence. Thus, taxes are paid because the treat of not paying them scares the individual more than simply handing over whatever loot their mugger demands.
People don't pay their taxes because they are patriots, they do it because they don't want to be punished. For proof, look no further than everyone seeking every possible way to reduce their tax burden come 1040 time. And even then, look at the fine print where your signature goes, where the State issues a treat about you telling the whole truth and nothing but, or ELSE!!
The whole setup is based on threats, and those are backed with a monopoly on force and violence, and mostly figuratively, but in plenty of cases, quite literally, that is indeed the gun to your head.
Now you can keep being pedantic if it keeps the cognitive dissonance away, but everyone else reading this thread gets it, and understands the implicit threat backing everything the State does.
Describe a senario where someone who is not acting violently gets a literal gun pointed at their literal head?
"Monopoly of violence"
More fake news propaganda
Term limits negate MONOPOLY
And there is NO VIOLENCE WHATSOEVER
Describe a situation where the state uaes deadly violence against someone who is acting non violently...
Describe a senario where someone who is not acting violently gets a literal gun pointed at their literal head?
"Monopoly of violence"
More fake news propaganda
Term limits negate MONOPOLY
And there is NO VIOLENCE WHATSOEVER
Describe a situation where the state uaes deadly violence against someone who is acting non violently...
Well I see that you'll categorize anyone who defends self or property against the states attempts to kidnap and confiscate as "acting violently"
Could we say the same of anyone in attempts to defend person and property from an assailant in a dark alley?
In reality and ancap world;
gun toting individual wearing a govt issued costume and ID badge = kidnapper, perp, assailant, robber, rapist, thug...
Describe a senario where someone who is not acting violently gets a literal gun pointed at their literal head?
State comes to claim money, individual refuses. State issues "or else" threat, individual still refuses. State goon issues even stronger "or else" and does so in threatening manner, individual still refuses. Eventually, the state will ratchet the threat up to the mortal threat to force compliance with their wishes. And they will employ men with guns and other various tools for implementing force to do that escalation.
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"Monopoly of violence"
More fake news propaganda
No, it's the definition of government power. That's all they have backing their claim to legitimacy. The nature of state power has been pondered and written about for about 5,000 years now, and ha been really wired down since the Scottish Enlightenment, which is where most of the founding thinking and writing for the US government came from.
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Originally Posted by Boer
Term limits negate MONOPOLY
Term limits simply require that exactly one office within the monopolistic power must change at least every 8 years. An equivalent you can wrap around your head around would be EvilCorp_01 who has some monopoly on some item. Let's use Google or Micro$oft for a mental image.
If you mandate that the chairman of the board of directors must change every 8 years, but every other thing about the management structure can and most likely will remain exactly the same, and further that the rest of the board and corporate officers understands that rule, and that the chairman of the board can do some stuff but not really change much about how the company functions....does the nature of that company or its power over its own employees or within the market actually change every 8 years? Nope.
The US government in sum is the monopoly holder. Mandating the change of only one specific office (and the small coterie of appointees re: that office) every 8 years does not change the government, it simply changes the face on the Big Brother posters.
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Originally Posted by Boer
And there is NO VIOLENCE WHATSOEVER
Changing out one person in a thugocracy of over a million doesn't change the nature of the thugocracy. And voting is not mandatory, so no force is applied to that charade. They apply force when the behavior they demand is mandatory. Don't pay your property taxes for 3 years and refuse to leave your home when they demand confiscation of said for your failure to render unto Caesar, and you'll get a graphic illustration of who holds how much power, as well as what backs that power.
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Originally Posted by Boer
Describe a situation where the state uaes deadly violence against someone who is acting non violently...
Simply refuse to move when they command you to, and after enough refusals, violence will occur, even against the non-violent. It is an actual rule with most law enforcement departments at every level that someone not IMMEDIATELY doing as commanded by one of the state centurions is itself an act of violence. If you stand perfectly still, and an agent of tyranny tells you to move and you continue standing perfectly still, per THEIR RULES, you are now committing violence against them. They write the rules of what they consider violence against them, as well as the rules for what they are allowed to do to you if you violate those conditions. And if an agent of tyranny commands you, it is an act of violence to simply ignore them and not move.
If they knock on your door with a search warrant, all you have to do for them to draw weapons, break down your door, assault you and threaten you with the brandished firearms is refuse to open your door. Literally stand in place and refuse to move, and that is sufficient cause for the agents of tyranny to drop a pretty serious beating on you and your property. Simple refusal to move as commanded.
That is the nature of their power. They hold all the cards where force and violence are concerned. It is what allows so small a minority to rule so large a population with such absolute control. The threat and application of their violence is the source of everyone's love for Big Brother.
State comes to claim money, individual refuses. State issues "or else" threat, individual still refuses. State goon issues even stronger "or else" and does so in threatening manner, individual still refuses. Eventually, the state will ratchet the threat up to the mortal threat to force compliance with their wishes. And they will employ men with guns and other various tools for implementing force to do that escalation.
No, it's the definition of government power. That's all they have backing their claim to legitimacy. The nature of state power has been pondered and written about for about 5,000 years now, and ha been really wired down since the Scottish Enlightenment, which is where most of the founding thinking and writing for the US government came from.
Term limits simply require that exactly one office within the monopolistic power must change at least every 8 years. An equivalent you can wrap around your head around would be EvilCorp_01 who has some monopoly on some item. Let's use Google or Micro$oft for a mental image.
If you mandate that the chairman of the board of directors must change every 8 years, but every other thing about the management structure can and most likely will remain exactly the same, and further that the rest of the board and corporate officers understands that rule, and that the chairman of the board can do some stuff but not really change much about how the company functions....does the nature of that company or its power over its own employees or within the market actually change every 8 years? Nope.
The US government in sum is the monopoly holder. Mandating the change of only one specific office (and the small coterie of appointees re: that office) every 8 years does not change the government, it simply changes the face on the Big Brother posters.
Changing out one person in a thugocracy of over a million doesn't change the nature of the thugocracy. And voting is not mandatory, so no force is applied to that charade. They apply force when the behavior they demand is mandatory. Don't pay your property taxes for 3 years and refuse to leave your home when they demand confiscation of said for your failure to render unto Caesar, and you'll get a graphic illustration of who holds how much power, as well as what backs that power.
Simply refuse to move when they command you to, and after enough refusals, violence will occur, even against the non-violent. It is an actual rule with most law enforcement departments at every level that someone not IMMEDIATELY doing as commanded by one of the state centurions is itself an act of violence. If you stand perfectly still, and an agent of tyranny tells you to move and you continue standing perfectly still, per THEIR RULES, you are now committing violence against them. They write the rules of what they consider violence against them, as well as the rules for what they are allowed to do to you if you violate those conditions. And if an agent of tyranny commands you, it is an act of violence to simply ignore them and not move.
If they knock on your door with a search warrant, all you have to do for them to draw weapons, break down your door, assault you and threaten you with the brandished firearms is refuse to open your door. Literally stand in place and refuse to move, and that is sufficient cause for the agents of tyranny to drop a pretty serious beating on you and your property. Simple refusal to move as commanded.
That is the nature of their power. They hold all the cards where force and violence are concerned. It is what allows so small a minority to rule so large a population with such absolute control. The threat and application of their violence is the source of everyone's love for Big Brother.
Tin foil jogging suit...
Corporate Kool-Aid merchant
Simply refuse to move when they command you to, and after enough refusals, violence will NOT occur.
dragging a squealing crybaby taxcheat out of the asset is NOT VIOLENCE
Its part of the written agreement established at the point of sale of said asset
if you resist violently you will receive violence
NOT UNTIL THEN
the citizen is 100% in control of the ESCALATION OF FORCE
AND NOBODY EVER PUTS A GUN TO YOUR HEAD
PORPAGANDA 101
On your government vs private tyranny tirade you forgot about the key factor that we vote for the government
the corporation doesn't care about your vote...
they can have a true MONOPOLY because they have
NO TERM LIMITS
NOT BEHOLDEN TO DEMOCRACY
NO OPEN RECORD REQUIREMENT
HAVE A PROFIT REQUIREMENT
so with democracy and term limits a government can never establish a monopoly
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