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Hey yo, were all ants in the ant hill. Every now and then you might get a couple ants railing against the anthill and its authoritarian ways but guess what... when those ants go home at night they still go home to the ant hill. They COULD strike out on their own - but they don't - why is that? Because they NEED the anthill and they freakin' know it. They will keep complaining anyway because they like the attention and it makes them feel special, but they will never ever leave the anthill.
A cold simple explanation...
They want all the things that come with a well-organized civilization
Don't pay your Property and Real Estate Taxes on YOUR home. Guys with GUNS will show up to physically EVICT YOU. So yes, you will literally have a GUN TO YOUR HEAD if you don't pay your taxes.
Nope people with paperwork show up to seize your property
If you act like a Savage and attack them then they will call people with guns
those people won't point their guns at you unless you act violently
You see you're in total command and control over the gun
it's got nothing to do with you paying your taxes
when I got behind on my taxes nobody with guns showed up
it's got everything to do with you acting like a civilized human being
It's amazing how modern society has perverted the human brain
from time immemorial people built fences and walls around their encampments to keep them safe
they had to pitch in together to maintain this fence that protected them from Wildlife weather and hostile humans.....
naturally some were old, young or weak and couldn't do much to help maintain the fence but everyone contributed something..
(unlike today we're a tiny handful of society despite being able-bodied refuse to help maintain the situation)
everyone that lived within the wall had the CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY to help maintain the situation as it was CRITICAL to survive the night
at any time people HAD THE FREEDOM to leave the protective walls and go live with the savages, wildlife and elements
From time to time a citizen of this encampment would make a great kill
clearly it was a great and rare winfall
the lucky citizen had the emotion not to share it with the group
The only reason this individual lived long enough and had the tools to attain this great winfall was the fact that they lived in a safe and orderly civil society...people had been maintaining the fence for many years and thus CULTIVATED A CULTURE that ALLOWED these great winfall to occur more and more often...
The civilization allowed this lucky citizen access to medicine, technology, skills and the time to practice with these advantages
Over time these encampments became cities
Today we pay our taxes instead of repair the fence and hunt/gather
In the savage days of human survival AGAINST nature there were those who did not want to help repair the fence or share the great kills
Nope people with paperwork show up to seize your property
If you act like a Savage and attack them then they will call people with guns
those people won't point their guns at you unless you act violently
You see you're in total command and control over the gun
it's got nothing to do with you paying your taxes
when I got behind on my taxes nobody with guns showed up
it's got everything to do with you acting like a civilized human being
Nope. In my area the SHERIFF shows up, whom are ARMED, and escorts you (removes you) from the home. They then change the locks, and the county then auctions off the property. No, they will not point the guns at you if comply. If you don't want to leave, they will REMOVE YOU PHYSICALLY. However, they do have guns, and that is their ultimate power over you.
Taxes are FORCED CONFISCATION OF WEALTH AND INCOME ultimately at gun point. Yes, they are necessary for a few basics. Not ever damn cause under the sun.
Why do you get to decide that 'natural law' (or your interpretation of natural law) is 'real law'? Why should I accept your interpretation of it, what if I have a different interpretation?
I think that taking some wild berries from a piece of land you claim as yours if I'm hungry and have no food is just, you think it gives you the right to kill me for infringing your property rights. If you act on what you think is your right you are infringing on what I believe my rights to be.
This should be simple. I'm only a lowly government indoctrination center graduate and even I can grasp the concept.
I don't get to decide what natural law is. Science does. I can't make water freeze at 78 degrees F nor can I change the first law of motion to the following: an object will remain at rest or in a uniform state of motion unless that state is changed by an internal force. It's external, not internal. I got dealt that hand at birth. Like you. It's natural law. No where in science does a man get dealt a social contract at birth.
Fact: Man spawned State.
Statism: State spawned man.
Fact: A man cannot delegate a right he does not possess on his own, and freely admits that he does not possess it, to a collective.
Statism: If enough men decide that a collective can have a right they do not possess on their own it can belong to a collective to enforce on individuals...even the individuals who do not submit to the collective.
See how this works? I've made two irrefutable statements that show the difference between natural law and the social contract.
Science vs. religion here. And make no mistake, statism is a religion.
The berries...
I'm going to single you out for an experiment. Sorry about this but you folks need to stretch out your brains.
Does Man A rightfully own the berries? How can a man rightfully own something? Do the men have a personal contract with each other? What condition were the berries in? Expand on your scenario and let's see what kind of ideas we can generate. It will be a voluntary association exercise so no guns to heads and we can't run to daddy (Sammy) for help. Sounds risky at first, but don't worry, the world won't end. I promise.
Nope. In my area the SHERIFF shows up, whom are ARMED, and escorts you (removes you) from the home. They then change the locks, and the county then auctions off the property. No, they will not point the guns at you if comply. If you don't want to leave, they will REMOVE YOU PHYSICALLY. However, they do have guns, and that is their ultimate power over you.
Taxes are FORCED CONFISCATION OF WEALTH AND INCOME ultimately at gun point. Yes, they are necessary for a few basics. Not ever damn cause under the sun.
WRONG
NOBODY HAS A GUN POINTED AT YOU
You are free to leave or start a nonprofit and pay no taxes
You are not forced or enslaved or ANYTHING like that
They want all the things that come with a well-organized civilization
they just don't want to pay for it
I've been meaning to ask you OP, why did you start this thread?
I mean, us anarchists are so few in numbers and we can't initiate violence against others like you can (and do).
Were there rumblings at the latest "statists-4-life" meeting that the slaves were restless? Are my days of killing 8-year-old girls in Yemen for sh*ts and giggles coming to an end?
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