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Old 06-16-2019, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Lol...how many “man on the street” interviews do you have to see to know that Americans can’t even diagnose their own political issues? Please.

Americans don’t know squat about Thatcherism anyway, let alone how it appertains to British women. Stop it.
Yeah, the very notion is absurd - though amusing. We'll have to leave it at that.
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Old 06-16-2019, 09:30 AM
 
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Lol...how many “man on the street” interviews do you have to see to know that Americans can’t even diagnose their own political issues? Please.

Americans don’t know squat about Thatcherism anyway, let alone how it appertains to British women. Stop it.

lol - you've already declared your own ignorance on Thatcher and accordingly you are not in a position to declare anyone else's. And, as an aside, this thread is not about he politics and policies, it is about whether or not she served as a roll model to other women, and whether or not she was obligated to do so.

Follow your own advise and just "stop it".
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Old 06-16-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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We all know who Margaret Thatcher is, the infamous Iron Lady. While browsing IMDB I came upon an interesting quote from Honor Blackman who played the bond girl from the movie Goldfinger:


Do you think Margaret Thatcher was in the wrong not to use her position to try to empower women?
She was rather busy. She had a nation to lead, not a lot of time to waste playing militant feminist. At the time, there were not a lot of women with relevant experience to tap. As a powerful, strong women, I'm sure she appointed the best people that she could find to the positions, without being sexist or misandrist and putting less qualified women there.
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Old 06-16-2019, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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How can you ask American women what a British politician did or didn't do? Honor Blackman was British. I'm sure she followed British politics. Any responses you'll get here from American women is more than likely nothing but conjecture.
Much like asking the British their opinion on an American president...
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Old 06-16-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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We all know who Margaret Thatcher is, the infamous Iron Lady. While browsing IMDB I came upon an interesting quote from Honor Blackman who played the bond girl from the movie Goldfinger:


Do you think Margaret Thatcher was in the wrong not to use her position to try to empower women?

Why try to empower the weaklings?
Why should all women be "empowered" just because they are women?
Being a women of genuinely strong and independent mind Thatcher was doing what all strong people do- following her path in politics, without thinking how to "empower people of my own gender."

(Do men do that? Or are they all "strong and decisive" no matter what? )

Quoting someone here - "woman is like a tea-bag; she doesn't know her strength until she is in the hot water."
That's all to it.

(Not that I care for Thatcher or her politics.)
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Old 06-16-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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lol - you've already declared your own ignorance on Thatcher and accordingly you are not in a position to declare anyone else's. And, as an aside, this thread is not about he politics and policies, it is about whether or not she served as a roll model to other women, and whether or not she was obligated to do so.

Follow your own advise and just "stop it".
I’m also declaring YOUR ignorance on Thatcher.

Whether or not she served as a “roll model” () goes over my head because I’m not a woman, let alone a British woman.
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Much like asking the British their opinion on an American president...
The difference is that American leaders always have their fat ugly mugs in the faces of other nations while telling them what to do and who their leadership should be.

British leaders don’t smugly visit the United States and preach to American citizens about what’s best for them.
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:52 PM
 
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Why try to empower the weaklings?
Why should all women be "empowered" just because they are women?
Being a women of genuinely strong and independent mind Thatcher was doing what all strong people do- following her path in politics, without thinking how to "empower people of my own gender."

(Do men do that? Or are they all "strong and decisive" no matter what? )

Quoting someone here - "woman is like a tea-bag; she doesn't know her strength until she is in the hot water."
That's all to it.

(Not that I care for Thatcher or her politics.)
You make great points.
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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I’m also declaring YOUR ignorance on Thatcher.

Whether or not she served as a “roll model” () goes over my head because I’m not a woman, let alone a British woman.


The difference is that American leaders always have their fat ugly mugs in the faces of other nations while telling them what to do and who their leadership should be.

British leaders don’t smugly visit the United States and preach to American citizens about what’s best for them.
Sorry, but you can't unsay what you said. But thanks for proving me right. As always, I appreciate your (unintended) support.
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Much like asking the British their opinion on an American president...
Some Brits know more about American politics than Americans do, but good point.
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:56 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Some Brits know more about American politics than Americans do, but good point.
That's no lie. LOL
I have a friend from Norway that absolutely follows American politics more than I do. He's all over the Mueller investigation. He loves Trump and was shocked that I hold Trump in contempt. He hates Hillary Clinton and all liberals LOL
He absolutely knows more about US politics than I do. That doesn't make him right, just more knowledgable.
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