Phoenix mayor sorry after police pull gun on parents of alleged child shoplifter (states, federal)
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Yeah forget the fact that the cops charged them with weapons drawn. Forget the screaming, the cursing and the physical assaults by public servants. Forget that it is not the COPS job to be judge jury and executioner.
Why do you make excuses for horrendous behavior?
What the cops did has nothing to do with what kind of people you or I feel that family is. We as tax payers absolutely deserve better and absolutely should expect better.
That family may be trash, I don't know, but they are not paid to be an example. They are not paid public servants. They are not Law enforcement officers.
Your argument is an enabler and it is an argument that has empowered bad cops to be even worse. I dont care if that family is a bunch of low lives, our police are supposed to be better than a bunch of jack booted thugs. That video is a scene out of what I imagine East Germany was like under the Soviet Union. There is no acceptable excuse for the behavior of those cops.
Let me put it another way. Imagine you were passing by. You and a friend. Both armed and you hear the store owner yell "stop those people they are shop lifters."
You and your friend draw your weapons, run at that family screaming and cursing. Your buddy lays hands upon the father. Pushing hoim and kick his feet apart.
The actual police arrive on the scene and witness what you are doing. If you are honest you will admit it. You and your friend are going to be arrested, You will go to jail. You will be convicted. Those cops you are defending will pile on every charge that they can think of to make sure you are hammered by the system. That is what would happen to anyone except cops. They cover for each other. Worse still people make excuses for them and defend them. The same guys who would do everything they could to see a civilian go to prison for the exact same behavior.
There are two distinct standards for use of force, lethal and non lethal. Citizens and cops. If the cops draw their weapons and shoot someone it's ALWAYS "I was in fear for my life", "He APPEARED to be reaching for a weapon." Whether that was actually the case or not doesn't matter. And if shots are fired cops are known for emptying their gun.
In a citizen involved situation there had better be a weapon IN EVIDENCE. You had better not have fired any more rounds than absolutely necessary and any more you almost need someone taking video. A citizen doesn't get a blue line pass. Far from it. Even in so called "gun friendly " places.
Yeah forget the fact that the cops charged them with weapons drawn. Forget the screaming, the cursing and the physical assaults by public servants. Forget that it is not the COPS job to be judge jury and executioner.
Why do you make excuses for horrendous behavior?
Aren't liberals like you the same ones that say ONLY police should have "weapons of war" (guns)???
It's amazing how quick a liberal's opinion changes with the way the wind shifts.
Aren't liberals like you the same ones that say ONLY police should have "weapons of war" (guns)???
It's amazing how quick a liberal's opinion changes with the way the wind shifts.
And then there are those like me that believe the people should be able to own any weapon the government does. That if a police officer threatens someone when they have done nothing wrong, they should be able to legally fire in return.
That in the other episode where the police officer punched the couples car and cussed them out, they should be able to protect their property.
If the people in the car had done something wrong, you stop them, explain what they did and if need be write a citation. You do not punch their car and cuss them out. Those who do that are the ones that should be arrested.
Aren't liberals like you the same ones that say ONLY police should have "weapons of war" (guns)???
It's amazing how quick a liberal's opinion changes with the way the wind shifts.
This ^^^. The leftist firearms phobics are the first ones in line clamouring when the cops screw up with lethal force, which is happening with alarming frequency but in the same breath they say that ONLY the cops and military should have guns. Cops are "highly trained" and qualified whereas citizens are not. Yea, it shows.
Mostly in defensive situations involving citizens the cops just bring the ME and the body bags which far to often are for the citizens not the criminals because the citizens are denied the means for self defense by state and local law. See CA.
Also in citizen involved shootings where citizens can shoot back maybe two or three rounds are fired. When the cops get to shooting it's mag dumps. Point in the general direction and cut loose. In terms of training citizens often have more and better instruction and also practice far more. Cops fire their weapons twice a year when they have to qualify.
I have asked a lot of cops why they don't come to the competitions and the excuses abound. My favorite one is "I carry a gun for a living. I don't want to deal with it on my time off." Sooo...you carry a gun for a living and your life may well depend on being proficient with it but practicing is out of the question? OK, where does the "highly trained and qualified" part come in? During competition season especially I will fire 300 rounds in a practice session 4 times a week. Not very many cops do that.
A local sheriff here actually requires his off duty deputies to compete in the matches (the SO sponsors them). At first the deputies would show up and then try to sign up in C class. This is the class for youngsters and rank beginners. . The Sheriff put a stop to that and we made a rule that if you were a cop, armed security or otherwise carried a firearm as part of your job you competed in B class at the very least but preferably above.
It quickly became apparent that their skill levels were woefully inadequate. And the leftist wackos advocate that cops are the only ones who should have guns? We can depend on LE for our safety and security? Not hardly.
Meanwhile the MSM has quietly ignored the South Bend Indiana police shooting of an African American. If Mayor Pete was a republican and straight, they'd be all over this even if it was a justified shooting. I guess no news is fake news.
Meanwhile the MSM has quietly ignored the South Bend Indiana police shooting of an African American. If Mayor Pete was a republican and straight, they'd be all over this even if it was a justified shooting. I guess no news is fake news.
The vast majority of these cases are not in areas with straight Republicans running them. Many of them are not extensively covered at all.
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