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I don't get it though. If people want the end of fossil fuels why don't they just stop using them? Ride a bicycle or get an electric car. Get solar panels for the house. Use a push lawn mower.
Norway has their own reasons for their actions.
I read yesterday that US subsidizes $850 billion a year for use of fossil fuels. Why?
Indeed. So if we can’t build nuclear plants as a co2-free way of generating power, what’s left?
Most of the good spots for hydroelectric power are already taken. Wind and solar require natural gas backup plants.
Natural gas requires fracking. And natural gas is mostly methane, which is a very powerful greenhouse gas. If the gas leaks during production and transmission, it only adds to the greenhouse gas problem. Granted, natural gas yields less co2 than coal when burned, but gas leakage offsets some of that advantage.
I don't get it though. If people want the end of fossil fuels why don't they just stop using them? Ride a bicycle or get an electric car. Get solar panels for the house. Use a push lawn mower.
You are right- Liberals could take action by not using heating, air conditioning, electricity, and start riding a bike.
When asked to actually sacrifice something to achieve their "goals", suddenly they are not enthused.
If half of the US are democrats, think of how much CO2 production would fall if dems simply stopped using everything that produced CO2! It is a simple, direct solution, but will never happen. Why? Dems are happy to complain about something, but they always want someone else to pick up the tab, whether that is personal sacrifice or expenditures.
Ask any one of the AGW nuts whether they still use central heating/air, electricity and drive a car. They all do- probably more than anyone else. However, they genuinely feel that since they are "concerned" (but do nothing) that is "good enough".
No point to it at this time. We just don't have a cost effective viable alternative. But we should be working harder towards that goal then we are. The fact is fossil fuel is a limited resources, there may be a lot of it but its still not infinite and as more of the World modernizes it will only go so far. Better to be ahead of the curve then get hit by a ton of bricks when this happens.
It’s not like you will suddenly run out. Prices will slowly rise over time and alternatives will slowly decline in price. We don’t really need to get ahead of the curve.
Indeed. So if we can’t build nuclear plants as a co2-free way of generating power, what’s left?
Most of the good spots for hydroelectric power are already taken. Wind and solar require natural gas backup plants.
Natural gas requires fracking. And natural gas is mostly methane, which is a very powerful greenhouse gas. If the gas leaks during production and transmission, it only adds to the greenhouse gas problem. Granted, natural gas yields less co2 than coal when burned, but gas leakage offsets some of that advantage.
I wonder how long the natural gas will last. That's what's been putting coal out of business, not solar and windmills. Some sites say 50 years, but that looks like crackpot stuff.
I looked this up":
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The world is no longer at risk of running out of oil or gas, with existing technology capable of unlocking so much that global reserves would almost double by 2050 despite booming consumption, BP has said.
I read yesterday that US subsidizes $850 billion a year for use of fossil fuels. Why?
To ensure adequate domestic supply and to maintain employment, especially in periods of economic transition. And jobs. Subsidies in the form of reduced prices are used to stimulate particular economic sectors or segments of the population.
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