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Old 06-18-2019, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Should the number one badminton player be paid the same as the number one basketball player?

Now, let's be serious.

Pay is based upon number of fans and how much those fans are willing to pay for products endoresed by competitors in that sport.
No and that is not the argument they are making.

 
Old 06-18-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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No and that is not the argument they are making.
I'll pay more attention to the Olympics when F1 is included.

Don't hold your breath.
 
Old 06-18-2019, 06:49 AM
 
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Once again this is about the USWNT, not FIFA. the lawsuit has nothing to do with FIFA.
Once again, you being deceitful.

You are purposefully not using ALL Revenue brought in by each team and you purposefully exclude revenue from TV. If you had a valid argument, why would you manipulate significant revenue out of your comparison?
 
Old 06-18-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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The best women's soccer team in the world isn't among the best 1000 teams overall. If the criteria is the level of soccer played then nothing could be clearer than the fact that they don't rate equal pay.
The US Women's World Cup team is awesome, but you are correct.

Although, the US Women's World Cup team is routinely ranked as the best women's team on earth, they aren't in the top 1000 soccer teams on earth. They routinely get crushed by regional Under-15 boys teams. That is they lose to junior high boys aged 13 and 14 routinely.

To be clear, yes the adult women on the World Cup champion teams, playing their stars....get crushed by regional boys teams of 13 and 14 year olds.

For example, the US Women's World Cup team played the "Dallas Academy" Under-15 boys team and lost 5-2....they still went on to blow out the women's team they played shortly thereafter.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...U-15-boys.html

This is not an outlier....this routinely happens.


This is why FIFA pays out more to the men players for the world cup, it is a noticeable drop off in talent and that means less TV viewers and less revenue.

The last FIFA Men's World Cup had $6.1 Billion in Revenue....FIFA will be happy if this Women's World Cup hits $0.1 Billion in Revenue.
 
Old 06-18-2019, 07:05 AM
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The Women's National Team lawsuit was filed earlier this year, it sure looks like a winner.



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/10/m...ality-pay.html


Who watches women's sports?


Revenues are what drives the salaries in sports.
 
Old 06-18-2019, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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No and that is not the argument they are making.
Understand that they are in the entertainment business, not corporate America.

In the entertainment business, you need to entertain people. The more people you entertain, the more money you get. And if advertisers believe they can profit from your form of entertainment, they will hitch their wagon to yours and they will pay you more money. But it is solely dependent on your entertainment value.

That's how it works in TV, movies, and music. Beyonce does not have to worry about equal pay because she makes way above the average male and female due to the fact that her entertainment value is high in our culture.
 
Old 06-18-2019, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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would the ladies settle for replacing the US Men's Team? win-win
 
Old 06-18-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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Understand that they are in the entertainment business, not corporate America.

In the entertainment business, you need to entertain people. The more people you entertain, the more money you get. And if advertisers believe they can profit from your form of entertainment, they will hitch their wagon to yours and they will pay you more money. But it is solely dependent on your entertainment value.

That's how it works in TV, movies, and music. Beyonce does not have to worry about equal pay because she makes way above the average male and female due to the fact that her entertainment value is high in our culture.
But they are popular and they do bring in large amounts of revenue yet are not rewarded.
 
Old 06-18-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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But they are popular and they do bring in large amounts of revenue yet are not rewarded.
You can't base a lawsuit on "large amounts of revenue", you have to be specific. If the lady's can prove that they are generating as much/more revenue than the guys for equivalent work then they have a good chance of winning. Do consider however that sometimes it's not just a simple matter of revenue, sometimes you have to pay more to attract talent in a more competitive market. In other words, while the lady's may bring in more revenue, the market for top flight female soccer players is less than that of their male counterparts, therefore in order for the US men's team to attract better talent, they have to pay a wage that competitive with other men's soccer teams.
 
Old 06-18-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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You can't base a lawsuit on "large amounts of revenue", you have to be specific. If the lady's can prove that they are generating as much/more revenue than the guys for equivalent work then they have a good chance of winning. Do consider however that sometimes it's not just a simple matter of revenue, sometimes you have to pay more to attract talent in a more competitive market. In other words, while the lady's may bring in more revenue, the market for top flight female soccer players is less than that of their male counterparts, therefore in order for the US men's team to attract better talent, they have to pay a wage that competitive with other men's soccer teams.
Some good points.

Many players are eligible to play on multiple countries' national teams based on the loose interpretations of nationality that FIFA has. Also some good players have sat out of national team games so as to not interfere with other professional obligations. Etc...
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