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Old 06-18-2019, 08:26 AM
 
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Huh? No, the interviewer raised the fact that many religious black people are socially conservative and unlikely to support a gay candidate. He asked Buttigieg how he planned to deal with that and Buttigieg gave him his spiel. No big deal.
Anyone who graduated from college, let alone someone who's a real journalist, would know it was a ridiculous line of questioning.

Black people aren't some monolithic group of people that fit into this one mold despite what some extremist loon suggests. They're all independent-thinking individuals just like white people or wealthy people who have perfectly legitimate reasons for not electing Pete Buttigieg or any individual.

Perhaps, for example, they don't like the fact that Buttigieg has an extensive history of being (at best) a racist sympathizer, or the fact that he's not running with a clear economic platform like some of his competitors, etc.

To take an editorial from an individual who would represent the fringe of any community and use it to create a misleading narrative (as NBC did here) is journalistic malpractice.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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There is a real dialogue right now in Black churches in the USA about the acceptance of same sex couples.

I think addressing that issue with a candidate in a same sex relationship is part of that process.

A Black Pastor says it will be an issue -- bringing that up does not make me homophobic.....it just makes me aware that Black churches do struggle with accepting homosexuality, same sex marriage, etc.

https://illinoisfamily.org/faith/340...arriage/34,000 Black Churches Leave PCUSA Over Same-Sex Marriage

This is not a new issue. It has been around for some time. But it is now more relevant because we do have a candidate who is in a same sex marriage.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Is in NBC calling blacks deplorables? sure sounds like it since homophobia is one of the traits, right?
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Many AAs are very culturally conservative, but have voted Democratic for decades. A rural Black South Carolinian won't have much in common with a wealthy, urban Bostonite, but they vote for the same party.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I think that African Americans will show up and vote for the Democratic candidate whoever that may be. I just think that people are tired of the Trump reality show, and want change.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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I’m sure this is being spun into more than it is for shock value.

I’m not even clicking the link but I’m sure they spoke on Black voters conservative values when it comes to gays.

Chicago just elected a gay mayor. Times are changing.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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In other words Buttigieg is saying he isn't a serious candidate !!!

He's only out there to stir the pot and hurt the GOP in anyway he can !!!

A shill with spiel !!!
Huh? How did you come to...

Nah, nevermind.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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Huh? No, the interviewer raised the fact that many religious black people are socially conservative and unlikely to support a gay candidate. He asked Buttigieg how he planned to deal with that and Buttigieg gave him his spiel. No big deal.
Pretty much this.

The bottom line for Buttigieg is that the DNC will never allow him to be the nominee because they know full well how many African Americans stay home on Election Day if he is. Survey after survey over the last 10-20 years shows only white evangicals being more opposed to homosexuality than black protestants of any denomination. FFS, white Catholics are less opposed to homosexuality than black Protestants are. It just is what it is.

They have to have a solid, get out to the polls en masse! black vote to beat Trump, and Buttigieg is the worst candidate to make that happen. The DNC knows this, so Buttigieg can serve his somewhat useful purpose for some virtue signaling at the "see how inclusive we are" stage of early, pre-Iowa campaigning, but he'll never finish higher than 5th, even in Indiana. But beyond that, he'll serve no other purpose and will be cast aside after 3-4 primaries are done.

He can "try to connect" all he wants, but black people are allowed to be homophobic & religious while also totally free from criticism about it, as they are much larger voting bloc than gay people, so he is useful now to make the pool of candidates look inclusive, but he fails the intersectionality test too hard to be the actual nominee.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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Many AAs are very culturally conservative, but have voted Democratic for decades. A rural Black South Carolinian won't have much in common with a wealthy, urban Bostonite, but they vote for the same party.
That's the same with Republicans -- a rich oil tycoon doesn't have much in common with someone living in a double wide in the Kentucky mountains.....but they both can vote Republican.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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Huh? How did you come to...

Nah, nevermind.
Yeah ...it was pretty obvious, wasn't it ? Yes, it was !!!
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