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Old 06-20-2019, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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Did Melody Jackson lie because of "pressure" from the police?
Wise made statements to Jackson after being detained and coerced by violence. Again, the admissions were coerced by violence and the DNA matched Reyes, a convicted murderer.

The prosecutors and officers need to be held responsible. Who knows how many more cases were handled in this manner, leaving the public susceptible to attacks by criminals never put behind bars. Further, cases like this only contribute to public mistrust for law enforcement.

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Old 06-20-2019, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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So Anne Coulter got her facts from biased newspaper articles and not the case itself. Clearly she didn't look at the evidence or review the tapes of the accused/convicted/exonerated. Her reporting is reckless and the CP5 should sue her for defamation.

Why did the police coerce and lie? For the same reason they kill people of color on tape and turn around and say they were scared. For the same reason they gave when a military veteran Evert Palmer, Jr voluntarily turned himself into jail for a 2 day stay turned up dead with missing organs and the claims of him being on meth is utterly ridiculous to anyone with a brain. The same reason the police pulled out a gun on an unarmed Phoenix family - RACISM.

For those that are posting that the CP5 is guilty not sure why you want them to be guilty so bad and makes no sense for people to even argue with them. Think of Emmit Till and all of the lynchings and killings that has happened over the centuries since the inception of this country. Until there are more judges, policy makers, schools, and businesses with people of color the struggle will continue.
Well said. All they want is for people of color to be behind bars. It matters not to them whether they are truly guilty.

It is frustrating when you work with honest law enforcement and prosecutors, knowing that hard work put in daily gets overshadowed by cases like these.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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Just showed his disrespect for the American justice system.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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There were 4 black and 4 Latino jurors. Maybe in NYC in 1990, people of all races and ethnicity were biased against the defendants.

The bold makes no difference in regards to my comments. I've noted many tiimes on this forum that black people specifically can be and are biased against other black people because of internalized racism and them buying into the social conditioning of America, whereas black people are viewed in an inferior way. They truly buy into those stereotypes. I've personally known many racist black people who are racist against other black people. Most of us sane black folks call them "self hating negroes." Some are just "ignorant negroes."
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Old 06-20-2019, 04:03 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Yes, I do understand what he was saying and he wasn't saying that these kids should be executed.
He wasn't? Bring back the death penalty?
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Old 06-20-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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The bold makes no difference in regards to my comments. I've noted many tiimes on this forum that black people specifically can be and are biased against other black people because of internalized racism and them buying into the social conditioning of America, whereas black people are viewed in an inferior way. They truly buy into those stereotypes. I've personally known many racist black people who are racist against other black people. Most of us sane black folks call them "self hating negroes." Some are just "ignorant negroes."
That was bad luck for the 5. Four self hating or ignorant black people and 4 self-hating or ignorant Latino people on the jury, along with the four racist white people.
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Old 06-20-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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That was bad luck for the 5. Four self hating or ignorant black people and 4 self-hating or ignorant Latino people on the jury, along with the four racist white people.
clearly this is the only possible explanation.
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Old 06-20-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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https://www.takimag.com/article/who-...-the-evidence/

Were the friends and acquaintances also "coerced by violence"?
Dear Lord. A blog that claims to be libertarian suddenly finds itself solidly on the side of the government bending the rules a bit. Coerced confessions? A bit of the old Reid Technique? Meh, it's all good, they were bound to be guilty of something.

The small-government advocates in this thread sure like their government when it comes to forcing down the right sort of people. Including their great white hope.
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Old 06-20-2019, 05:53 PM
 
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So the confession by one of the boys to the police before they knew about the jogger was coerced? How does that work?
You really need to read up on interrogation techniques. Police has had decades to perfect them, and they work. They work very well, in fact, in getting confessions. It's just that they work so well, people confess to stuff they provably didn't do.

As for the CP5, they were subject to even cruder versions and rougher methods- but hey, we got a conviction and that's what counts.
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Old 06-20-2019, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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You really need to read up on interrogation techniques. Police has had decades to perfect them, and they work. They work very well, in fact, in getting confessions. It's just that they work so well, people confess to stuff they provably didn't do.

As for the CP5, they were subject to even cruder versions and rougher methods- but hey, we got a conviction and that's what counts.
Very true. NYPD coerced and beat up Richard hauptmann to confess for kidnapping chalres Lindberg baby. This happened in the 1930s btw.
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