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Old 06-19-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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So?

They were there, they were "wilding" that night, and they admitted not only beating and kicking the krap out of her, but stealing from her.

The Big Lie is that they weren't involved. The truth is that they--and a sixth perp, brutalized that jogger 30 years ago.

Give me a break with turning these brutes into victims.
Got any evidence that proves what you're saying is true?

Orrrrrr just speculation on your part?
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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Do you have proof of that?! We're the boys convicted of that of those crimes?

Rhetorical question, because the answer is no.

I get the idea of being sympathetic to young black boys who were wronged by the justice system may be difficult for some Americans because they tend to see "blacks" as troublesome and "thugs," so I don't expect everyone to be objective on this very complex issue.
Four of the five were convicted of attacking a different jogger in the park that night.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Fact: Donald Trump paid $80K to take out a full-page ad in the newspaper. He called for NY to bring back the death penalty for four teenagers (two of which were just 14 years old).

Fact: The Central Park Five were fully exonerated and the city of New York paid $41,000,000 to the men for their mistake.

The statements above are true, they cannot be refuted or argued.

YESTERDAY: Fully aware of the news that the men he had said deserved the death penalty had been exonerated after a serial rapist & murderer had confessed to the crimes and DNA evidence confirmed it, Donald Trump yesterday REFUSED to apologize or acknowledge that the boys he said deserved the death penalty were innocent.


City-Data Trump supporters....any opinions on this?
You are wrong. Donald Trump never called for the execution of the Central Park 5.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you never actually read the ad he took out.

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Old 06-19-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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In its January 2003 Armstrong Report, disputed acceptance of Reyes's claim that he alone had raped the jogger. It said there was "nothing but his uncorroborated word" that he acted alone. Armstrong said the panel believed "the word of a serial rapist killer is not something to be heavily relied upon."
The report concluded that the five men whose convictions had been vacated had "most likely" participated in the beating and rape of the jogger and that the "most likely scenario" was that "both the defendants and Reyes assaulted her, perhaps successively." The report said Reyes had most likely "either joined in the attack as it was ending or waited until the defendants had moved on to their next victims before descending upon her himself, raping her and inflicting upon her the brutal injuries that almost caused her death."


New York City detectives support the 2003 Armstrong Report by the police department (see below). The panel said there had been "no misconduct in the 1989 investigation of the Central Park jogger case."
As to the five defendants, the report said:
We believe the inconsistencies contained in the various statements were not such as to destroy their reliability. On the other hand, there was a general consistency that ran through the defendants' descriptions of the attack on the female jogger: she was knocked down on the road, dragged into the woods, hit and molested by several defendants, sexually abused by some while others held her arms and legs, and left semiconscious in a state of undress.
That is police talk for Cover Your A@@. You thought the police would come out and say "Yep we locked those kids up and screwed their lives forever"?

Again the words "perhaps" "Likely" "Maybe" or "Most likely senecio" mean nothing when the police didn't bother looking for the rapist in the first place. All those perhaps and maybe's should indicate that the State didn't believe their own case as they seem unsure.

Add to that the fact that it was known that the police interrogated kids, a 14 y/o without a parent or or food for 24 plus hours. Please explain how they found "No misconduct in the investigation" this was known.

Go watch the "Confession tape for yourself one of them is public. The kids didn't even know each other names and had to be told, the location of the rape was wrong, the murder weapon that the kid said was used was never actually used, the lady was hit with a rock not a pipe as stated in the video. The kids didn't know each other names but they were a close group of gang members? A gang member would at least know a "street name" for you.

I guess I am amazed that a Heavy Right Forum like this would just believe anything the police say especially when I am not suppose to believe anything the FBI says about current situations.

Stop picking and choosing when government overreach is ok and JUST SAY NO to government overreach.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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How much time did frat boy sit in jail? How many years did those kids sit in jail?

How is this related in any way to the topic?
It isn't related. It is, however, the familiar utilization of smug ignorance in an attempt to soothe a tortured soul.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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Trump should apologize the day after every Senate Democrat issues an apology for their treatment of Justice Kavanaugh.
They didn't put Kavanaugh in prison...they just tried to keep that bad judge off the SCOTUS.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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What does this have to do with Trump?
I addressed a particular point. I addressed Trump in my first post.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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In its January 2003 Armstrong Report, disputed acceptance of Reyes's claim that he alone had raped the jogger. It said there was "nothing but his uncorroborated word" that he acted alone. Armstrong said the panel believed "the word of a serial rapist killer is not something to be heavily relied upon."
The report concluded that the five men whose convictions had been vacated had "most likely" participated in the beating and rape of the jogger and that the "most likely scenario" was that "both the defendants and Reyes assaulted her, perhaps successively." The report said Reyes had most likely "either joined in the attack as it was ending or waited until the defendants had moved on to their next victims before descending upon her himself, raping her and inflicting upon her the brutal injuries that almost caused her death."


New York City detectives support the 2003 Armstrong Report by the police department (see below). The panel said there had been "no misconduct in the 1989 investigation of the Central Park jogger case."
As to the five defendants, the report said:
We believe the inconsistencies contained in the various statements were not such as to destroy their reliability. On the other hand, there was a general consistency that ran through the defendants' descriptions of the attack on the female jogger: she was knocked down on the road, dragged into the woods, hit and molested by several defendants, sexually abused by some while others held her arms and legs, and left semiconscious in a state of undress.






two doctors who had treated Meili ...said , that her injuries appeared to be inconsistent with Reyes' claim that he had acted alone.
forensic pathologist who testified at the 1990 trial said that it was impossible to tell from the victim's injuries how many people had participated in the assault, but it was more than one



"Most likely" trumps the first hand confession I suppose.

Our system of Justice is after all based upon "most likely". (Sarcasm)
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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The person who confessed said he acted on his own.
serial rapists are always trustworthy.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:14 PM
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Trump stands by 1989 Central Park Five comments


What's Trump's point?

"Following the arrest of the five teenagers, Mr Trump paid for newspaper adverts calling for the return of the death penalty in the state.

The Central Park Five were exonerated in 2002, after another man confessed.

They say their earlier confessions were a result of police coercion"

"They put a bounty on our heads by taking out these full-page ads calling for our deaths," one of the men, Yusef Salaam, said last month.

Mr Trump was asked by a reporter at the White House on Tuesday if he would apologize to the five men for the newspaper ads.

"You have people on both sides of that. They admitted their guilt. If you look at Linda Fairstein and if you look at some of the prosecutors, they think that the city should never have settled that case. So we'll leave it at that."
Donald J. Trump

'Both sides' again, it's always 'both sides' with that guy ... Very odd.

Donald Trump has stated before he has never asked God for forgiveness. I suppose that would make him unique, along with perhaps Jesus Christ.

Trump is not getting any younger, it may be worthwhile for him to make an examination of conscience (just to be on the safe side). No time like the present.
This is how I see it. President Trump is stubborn and stands by what he says. He could be dead wrong for what he says, and knows he wrong, but won't change. He doesn't want to admit to being wrong. I think he knows what he did was wrong, but he'll never apologize for it. He has displayed a lack of empathy. Trump isn't sorry for what he did. He just doesn't want anyone talking to him about it. A person can know what they did was morally wrong, and still have no remorse.
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