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Old 06-19-2019, 05:33 PM
 
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Yep. Heís ignoring that they were tricked and coerced into giving false statements with promises from law enforcement that it would FREE them. These are minors that we are talking about.
Their parents were present when they gave their statements. The police commissioned an independent inquiry and found they were not coerced.
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Old 06-19-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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Trump asked for the death penalty, no one is arguing these were great kids just that they were railroaded. Trump and others were dead wrong. This is what they do when there is a high profile crime, just find someone even if innocent.
Do you think Reyes deserved the death penalty for doing it, if she had died?

And werent great kids? You mean not going to a park at night and beating random white people senseless for thrills is all it takes for you to call kids great?
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Old 06-19-2019, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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It is sad and astonishing that the Trump supporters here are trying to act like these exonerated men committed any crime. They did not. Them being in the park doesn't mean they were "wilding." The crimes they were convicted of have been shown to be false. Their confessions were coerced and illegal and shouldn't even have been admitted into court.

It is interesting that these same posters probably have a lot of faith in the "justice" system. There was no justice served for these men and their families. Their lives were basically ruined over this and you are all still trying to act like they committed a crime because they were picked up by the police.

FWIW for the sane/moderate posters, these people who are refusing to admit the obvious (just like Trump won't) are the reason why the criminal "justice" system is still a corrupt, racist system. These sorts of people serve on juries, are LE officers, prosecutors, and even district attorneys. Regardless of evidence they have their racial biases and those biases, even when presented with evidence, will not be swayed and they'll exert their racist influence in any way they can within any system that allows it. The only systems left that allow it are the criminal "justice" system and the educational system to a lesser extent.
Sad and oh, so true.

I read about an equally terrifying report that detailed the sort of stuff LEOs in several jurisdictions post(ed) on their FB pages. Itís worth looking for.
In short, much of what was posted showed racial bias and advocated for violence.
Reported today, a prosecutor in St. Louis is now refusing to work with some two dozen cops due to these sorts of posts. Wonít let them testify, wonít honor warrant requests, nothing.


There are systemic issues in the justice system and what happened in this case is likely just the tip of the iceberg.
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Old 06-19-2019, 05:59 PM
 
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Trump has always been incapable of admitting wrong. This is no different.
True , he just throws someone else under the bus.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Their parents were present when they gave their statements. The police commissioned an independent inquiry and found they were not coerced.
The parents were not present for questioning, tell me who was the independent commission.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you think Reyes deserved the death penalty for doing it, if she had died?

And werent great kids? You mean not going to a park at night and beating random white people senseless for thrills is all it takes for you to call kids great?
Did they deserve the death penalty for their actions.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:10 PM
 
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Okay, to be honest, I'm not sure that it calls for an "apology." But it does call for some passing admission that he was wrong in retrospect.

But when has Trump ever been able to admit he was wrong? He's too insecure for that.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:17 PM
Status: "THE UNBORN R OUR FUTURE" (set 29 days ago)
 
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Trump stands by 1989 Central Park Five comments


What's Trump's point?

"Following the arrest of the five teenagers, Mr Trump paid for newspaper adverts calling for the return of the death penalty in the state.

The Central Park Five were exonerated in 2002, after another man confessed.

They say their earlier confessions were a result of police coercion"

"They put a bounty on our heads by taking out these full-page ads calling for our deaths," one of the men, Yusef Salaam, said last month.

Mr Trump was asked by a reporter at the White House on Tuesday if he would apologize to the five men for the newspaper ads.

"You have people on both sides of that. They admitted their guilt. If you look at Linda Fairstein and if you look at some of the prosecutors, they think that the city should never have settled that case. So we'll leave it at that."
Donald J. Trump

'Both sides' again, it's always 'both sides' with that guy ... Very odd.

Donald Trump has stated before he has never asked God for forgiveness. I suppose that would make him unique, along with perhaps Jesus Christ.

Trump is not getting any younger, it may be worthwhile for him to make an examination of conscience (just to be on the safe side). No time like the present.
You do comprehend that there are two sides to every story, don't you?

I'd worry about my own repentance instead of that of President Trump if I were you.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:12 PM
 
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What was Trump wrong about 30 years ago when basically EVERYONE in the NY/NJ/CT/PA/DE area were also convinced they were guilty?

You can thank the media and the police and the DAs office for that.

They should be the ones apologizing.

They are the ones who did the CP-5 dirty.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:22 PM
 
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You do comprehend that there are two sides to every story, don't you?
Sure 'good people' on both sides, we've heard it before.

No one can give those kids their lost years, while Trump in his typical arrogance was calling for their killing. He is too proud to admit a mistake, the guy is amoral.

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I'd worry about my own repentance instead of that of President Trump if I were you.
Go ahead and worry about yours and I'll worry about mine.

I recommend a regular examination of conscience for everyone. Trump included, for his own sake, but don't expect Trump to come around ... he shows no signs of having a conscience.
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