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Old 06-20-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Charlotte NC
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Hes an independent.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Seriously?

Trump's cabinet is filled to the brim with Goldman-Sachs and former lobbyists.

Clean your own house.
and so was Obama's
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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He only became a democrat to run for POTUS. That is far easier than running as an independent. He didn't have to worry about ballot access. The Ds were nuts for allowing him on their ballot.

Sanders didn't provide floor leaders for his delegates to the Democratic National convention. The problem they created I believe it was intentional.

I also believe he is too far left. If the progressives nominate someone far left, they may as well vote for Donald Trump. There may be a bunch of young far left progressive, but there is also a bunch of old middle of the road lefties who know how to add.

I totally agree with this analysis. He's too far left for me. I prefer a more moderate and pragmatic candidate.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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What does that have to do with anything? He's still wealthy and part of the 1% that he constantly rails against. Why make excuses for the little communist curmudgeon hypocrite? Whether McConnell or anybody else for that matter has more than him is irrelevant.
I am not making an excuse. Just relaying how he acquired his money. At least he, as an elected official, didn't short dollars due to insider information.

I think it would be great if we knew how much every congressman and senator made while in office. Not that phony disclosure form they fill out that tells us very little.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: United States
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Seriously?

Trump's cabinet is filled to the brim with Goldman-Sachs and former lobbyists.

Clean your own house.
Maybe you missed the emails leaked, but Goldman-Sachs sent John Podesta an email with a list of who they wanted in Obama's cabinet, Obama put all of Goldman-Sachs' picks in his cabinet.

Seriously, don't push the nonsense that the democrats aren't the party of Wall St, just like the Republicans.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The fact that the Democratic Party doesn't know which way to turn will be what gets Trump re-elected.

Endorsing a Centrist like Biden is not going to work, and endorsing a Social Democrat isn't going to work either.

In the last election the Bernie supporters were so angry he wasn't nominated, a number of them voted for Trump as an act of vengeance. Same thing will happen again. And will Trump thank them for it?
If they would vote for Trump because they are angry Bernie cannot get nominated, they are not Democrats or reasonable people. Voting out of vengeance is a bizarre approach to democracy. Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face. They can join the chanting maga crowd.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:31 AM
 
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Will China be voting in our primary?
See the Democrat Super Delegates my dear.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:31 AM
 
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Seriously?

Trump's cabinet is filled to the brim with Goldman-Sachs and former lobbyists.

Clean your own house.
The Republicans do not claim they aren't the party of Wall Street. It's not up to them to clean their house.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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The day Obama nominated Geitner we all knew there was no hope for any change.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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The democrat party shuns Bernie Sanders, and I can't understand why.

The only perceivable "drawback" of Sanders is of his attachment to socialism, which might be a little too much for moderate democrats, to the extent that it's assumed that moderate democrats might sit at home on election day.

Be that as it may, that's the only "drawback" to a Sanders candidacy. On the flipside, the man is established, experienced, comes across as having a clean past, and, of all of the democratic candidates, it could be argued that Sanders is the most authentic - by far.

So...why has the democrat establishment kicked back on his candidacy?
Hes not bought by wall street thats why.
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