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If the drone was in their airspace then tough luck for us.
However, if it's in international airspace then that would be on them.
This is pretty widely accepted in the international community, Russian spy planes or US spy planes peeking over the boarder from altitude electronically or *gasp* sattelites you just don't shoot out of the sky.
This entire conversation could be had about two other countries like if Pakistan shot down an Indian drone or China shooting down a Russian object etc etc. etc.
Based on the claimed crash location I don't think it could be in International Airspace. If it wasn't in international airspace you pays your money and takes your chances that whoever's airspace you were shot down in complaints on your behalf, and that you had permission to be in their airspace at the time of the shoot down.
I noticed the US confirmed the drone was an RQ-4 Global Hawk, not a Triton, which isn't good for the US credibility when they previously claimed it was a Triton, if it got something as simple as the drone type wrong, how accurately is it in claims of its location?
We did this to them back in the day, but the plane was a civilian jet liner with 290 passengers. Ironically the US ship which fired the missile was on Iranian waters. It was an accident, but stands as a good example that these kinds of things happen when things are escalated, and Trump seems hell bent on escalating this one.
Ah, someone remembers that the Iranians still have a lot of catching up to do before the US can accuse them of provocation.
If we were Iran and anyone was flying drones in the straights of Hormuz we’d shoot it down. International is 200 miles from the coast. Nothing in the straights of Hormuz is 200 miles from Iran.
Umm, and the point is? Again, people can defend and justify Iran all they like and in some cases I may agree. But it doesn't matter. The US is in a position to tell Iran to stuff all their territorial claims under the umbrella of right of passage. Interfering with and harassing/attacking shipping and aviation in the strait just won't do.
Whatever the end motivation is be it free passage in the strait or some other goal, nefarious or noble or a combination of the two Iran needs to back off. Their territorial claims are not going to fly and they have been on the US s*** iist for quite a while now. Powers that be want to cross them off the notepad.
Iran is not going to be allowed to claim and try and enforce their territorial claims on the strait. Shooting down our drones and attacking shipping is not doing Iran any favors. Defend them all you wish. Throw out US "imperialism" and provocation till the cows come home. I doesn't change a thing.
My main concern is that our people in the region be allowed to defend themselves with all assets at their disposal. I'm a soldier not a diplomat. If Iran starts shooting we need to shoot back. If we are going to commit we need to be all in. I certainly don't want to see any invasion attempt or even striking Iran feet dry. That would not be prudent. Not because they would beat us but there is just no need for that. In terms of both strategy and tactics we should operate at sea and in the air over the sea to defend shipping and aviation.
But what I think and you think is irrelevant. We've been here before with Iran. At this point things back then were a lot more tense but it worked out. I would like to believe it will this time too. Iran is trying to save face right now. They want to show other ME countries that they aren't intimidated by the US. Typical of a leadership that is still living in the times of Saladin.
Iranian leadership is running on a theocratic premise and they truly believe Allah has their back. So, the US can't afford to back down here and neither can the Iranians. There will be some loss of life in this. It's a gimme. But hopefully it can be limited. I suppose that is contingent on just how much Allah is going to offer.
Uh, that was the result of Iraq. Do some reading. We upset the entire regional stability and the border between Iraq and Syria was pretty much done away with.
Wouldn't have happened if not for Neo-Cons. GWB and all....
Meanwhile, war with Iran will end up much worse...over the long run. Decade and decades of blow back.
But, hey. maybe a stable genius can see that far?
A civil war in Syria had nothing to do with Iraq. The overflow of insurgency from Iraq was not until Assad lost control of Syria from the arab spring when obamas state dept and israel decided to arm the FSA.
Don't like drones. Never thought they were a good idea. I've considered shooting down the little pests in my neighborhood. Personally, I think they should all be shot down.
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