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Old 06-21-2019, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
The Congress and Judiciary are supposed to exercise oversight to ameliorate conflict of interest. Unfortunately Congress has virtually stopped doing its job.
I say that Congress does do its job, though not in the way that you and some others want. In our political system, parties will have differing views on how Congress should react and check the executive. This functions does not have to be a nasty back and forth either.
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Old 06-21-2019, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I would expect it to be part of Judicial, since it's about laws and enforcement.
Wow. What a great example of how the Constitution is so poorly taught.

Congress --the Legislative Branch -- makes the laws. The Executive Branch carries out and enforces the laws the Legislative Branch enacts and the Judicial Branch ensures the laws Congress enacts are constitutional and that the Executive Branch doesn't over-step its authority when executing or enforcing laws.

Congress is very liberal when it passes the laws lobbyists write for Congress.

There's little specificity. It is the Offices and Agencies in the Executive Branch that actually create the rules for the laws Congress enacts.

A good example is the Medicare-for-All Bill:

SEC. 102. Universal coverage. (a) In general.—Every individual who is a resident of the United States is entitled to benefits for health care services under this Act. The Secretary shall promulgate a rule that provides criteria for determining residency for eligibility purposes under this Act.

See? No specificity. Congress leaves it up to the Secretary of Health & Human Services to decide who is actually eligible.

The Judicial Branch then decides if the law is constitutional and if it is, then whether the rules created by H&HS are within the scope of the law, or that the Secretary of H&HS has the authority to do that, and whether the rules are constitutional.
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:47 PM
 
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I've actually been wondering about this lately.

Seems to me the agency that enforces the law should not be in the same branch(es) that makes the laws. IMO it should be something separate, either part of the judicial branch or maybe something completely independent like the Federal Reserve.
I totally agree, I look at laws like the drug laws, and those in law enforcement actually had a hand in creating many of those laws...now that is ridiculous and wrong imo!


Ive said this before, people IN law enforcement SHOULD HAVE NO opinion on laws, or how laws are written, what laws are enacted, and so forth, their duty is to enforce laws that are made, if they want to get into the creation and writing of laws, let them run for elected office!


This is sort of how we ended up where we are with the failed drug war...its been largely DEA and LE making the laws...naturally they are going to create laws that benefit law enforcement, as well as the criminal cartels (as they need the steady flow of drugs coming in, in order to justify continued action against drugs!)
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