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Old 06-22-2019, 06:16 AM
 
Location: USA
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Here's another leftist trying to pitch moral relativism to influence you to hate America as much as he does. At the very least, he can find out who's like-minded and willing to join in his chorus of "America, I hate thee."
These are the same people that say they will leave the U.S. if Bush, or Trump get elected. Remember those? Yet they NEVER LEAVE, and hordes of illegals still risk their lives to get here. The Democrat Party, and the Left is in full hate America mode which of course they will fix to Fundamentally Transform it into a Socialist Workers Paradise renamed the Democratic Republic of the Union of Amerikanistan Socialist States.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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"Exceptionalism" isn't about America being PERFECT. It is about the concept and founding of a country based upon merit, and not about your FAMILY, or Royalty by birth. It is also the concept of CITIZENS having Natural Rights as humans upheld and guaranteed by the Constitution, and having SOME say in their representation in government.

OP. Take a Civics and History course. Get some education before you post nonsense.
But there is nothing exceptional in those concepts that you just stated. Those concepts are embraced by countless other nations around the world. Which supports the point of the OP that this country is not exceptional anymore.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:28 AM
 
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Yes we are Exceptional.

No other country are the worlds Poor trying to flood into for the opportunities that only exist here in the Great USA.

Over 45,000 from 52 countries in just the last 3 weeks.


Sure they do. Look at Europe. Millions are trying to flood into Europe. Heck even thousands South and Central Americans are flooding into Europe and overstay there visa or apply for asylum.

For Central Americans, Fleeing to Europe May Beat Trying to Reach U.S.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: USA
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But there is nothing exceptional in those concepts that you just stated. Those concepts are embraced by countless other nations around the world. Which supports the point of the OP that this country is not exceptional anymore.
Some countries kind of sorta copied us, but which have a Second Amendment to put teeth in their Rights? No other country has this guarantee of a Natural Right, and the ultimate guarantee of freedom.

Look at all the countries adopting "HATE SPEECH" laws as they don't have a First Amendment. No, we are still the most exceptional country in the world. The Democrats want to change that. And people like the OP just want to dwell on perceived negatives or the few mistakes we've made. Just more talking America down.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:38 AM
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More and more Americans are shedding "exceptionalism" and realizing that we are just as capable of terrible acts as any other nations.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...nalism/592213/
Maybe you are confused on what the word "exceptionalism" means.

exceptionalism[ ik-sep-shuh-nl-iz-uh m ]SHOW IPA
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noun
the condition of being exceptional; uniqueness.
the study of the unique and exceptional.
a theory that a nation, region, or political system is exceptional and does not conform to the norm.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:38 AM
 
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But there is nothing exceptional in those concepts that you just stated. Those concepts are embraced by countless other nations around the world. Which supports the point of the OP that this country is not exceptional anymore.
You should be able to tell us on what day did that occur !!! So please do !!!

I would even be willing to give you some leeway !!!

Day, week, month, year, and any of those will do !!!

Last edited by phma; 06-22-2019 at 06:49 AM..
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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Some countries kind of sorta copied us, but which have a Second Amendment to put teeth in their Rights? No other country has this guarantee of a Natural Right, and the ultimate guarantee of freedom.

Look at all the countries adopting "HATE SPEECH" laws as they don't have a First Amendment. No, we are still the most exceptional country in the world. The Democrats want to change that. And people like the OP just want to dwell on perceived negatives or the few mistakes we've made. Just more talking America down.
You certainly are …..

https://www.businessinsider.com/coun...e-world-2018-4

https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rceration_rate

https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table

https://www.nationmaster.com/country...million-people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nal_death_rate

As compared to most other first world developed countries, the U.S. is the exception alrighty.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:51 AM
 
Location: California
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More and more Americans are shedding "exceptionalism" and realizing that we are just as capable of terrible acts as any other nations.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...nalism/592213/
Nope, we're still exceptional.

All of the fools pointing to European countries and Australia as having similar standards as we do are missing the fact that the US is the glue binding western countries together. Our economy (#1) and military (#1) allow those countries to live lavishly and their citizens to enjoy a high standard of living. So yeah, you're welcome guys.

Take the US out of the equation, and who would buy European and Australian exports? Who would provide security guarantees, militarily? All of these countries would take a significant hit economically, and have to boost defense spending considerably to compensate. No doubt this would have an impact on how the citizens in these countries go about their daily lives.
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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But people also poured out of Germany, Britain, Ireland, Holland, Spain etc etc etc to come to the us in the past too largely for economic reasons, not political. So sure some run away from political persecution, but most to seek better economic opportunities which the us has. But this doesn’t make the us an exceptional country politically. It just makes it a land of opportunity because it has a huge landmass and plenty of spaces to grow.
Russia and China have bigger land mass and spaces to grow than America. I don't see anybody moving over there compare to USA.
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:12 AM
 
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"Exceptionalism" isn't about America being PERFECT. It is about the concept and founding of a country based upon merit, and not about your FAMILY, or Royalty by birth. It is also the concept of CITIZENS having Natural Rights as humans upheld and guaranteed by the Constitution, and having SOME say in their representation in government.

OP. Take a Civics and History course. Get some education before you post nonsense.
Well, then, we must have very few with great merit. That's why we are higher on the scale of inequality than most advanced nations....
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