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Old 06-26-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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You don't have to live in a gated community. If you are middle-class, then you simply don't see most of these things in American society. They are largely out of sight out of mind.

For example, the homicide rate in middle-class areas of America averages only around 1.2 per 100,000. So, in spite of all the talk about America's high crime rate, people who live outside of low-income urban areas almost never see any violent crime.

It is a situation where people who earn more money effectively buy themselves out of the ills that affect the lower socioeconomic strata. I suppose it works this way in a lot of other countries too.
Every country will have some areas without violent crime. Your post is nothing but a feeble and thinly guised "yeah but". The U.S. suffers from a higher crime rating due to the country's STATS. Full stop.
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Old 06-26-2019, 02:46 PM
 
Location: WY
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More and more Americans are shedding "exceptionalism" and realizing that we are just as capable of terrible acts as any other nations.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...nalism/592213/
Sorry, but American is NOT so "Exceptional".

Sorry but it is.

It just. Freakin. Is. The best damn country in the world.
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Old 06-26-2019, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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For the Trumpies here taking up for "American Exceptionalism", here is your orange god in 2013 praising his buddy Vladimir for criticizing the term when Obama used it.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...m-american-exc
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Old 06-26-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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You don't have to live in a gated community. If you are middle-class, then you simply don't see most of these things in American society. They are largely out of sight out of mind.

For example, the homicide rate in middle-class areas of America averages only around 1.2 per 100,000. So, in spite of all the talk about America's high crime rate, people who live outside of low-income urban areas almost never see any violent crime.

It is a situation where people who earn more money effectively buy themselves out of the ills that affect the lower socioeconomic strata. I suppose it works this way in a lot of other countries too.
Just because something is out of sight and out of mind, doesn't mean it doesn't exist and it doesn't mean its not a problem.
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Old 06-26-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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"Exceptionalism" isn't about America being PERFECT. It is about the concept and founding of a country based upon merit, and not about your FAMILY, or Royalty by birth. It is also the concept of CITIZENS having Natural Rights as humans upheld and guaranteed by the Constitution, and having SOME say in their representation in government.

OP. Take a Civics and History course. Get some education before you post nonsense.
Well said. When one is a citizen of a country one has certain rights. The right to excel, the right to achieve and liberty to do so. A member of my family immigrated from another country just so he would be judged on the quality of his work...and he has succeeded here.

No one ever said America was perfect. But we strive for heroic deeds...and whether that makes you hopeful ...of god forbid envious....we are proud to represent a country which would not settle, that fought and died for our ideals of freedom.
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Old 06-26-2019, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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For the Trumpies here taking up for "American Exceptionalism", here is your orange god in 2013 praising his buddy Vladimir for criticizing the term when Obama used it.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...m-american-exc
I'll tell you frankly, when i and others read your post, we know that you've never pushed beyond your own limitations. Aim high.
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Old 06-26-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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I'll tell you frankly, when i and others read your post, we know that you've never pushed beyond your own limitations. Aim high.
Who is "Frankly" and how does anyone, especially you and those "others" you presume to speak for, pretend to know the socioeconomic, intellectual achievements status of the poster referred to as not being "pushed beyond their limits"?
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Old 06-26-2019, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I'll tell you frankly, when i and others read your post, we know that you've never pushed beyond your own limitations. Aim high.
So in your mind "American Exceptionalism" does not work when pushed by Obama? Is it just Obama? Or is the American left banned from "Exceptionalism"?

Same old right myth. The right always and invariably lies when the tell what the left beliefs or thinks.
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Old 06-27-2019, 04:12 AM
 
Location: California
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I'm just gunna keep believing we are the best because it beats the alternatives. We can still improve, but so can everyone else.
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Old 06-27-2019, 04:23 AM
 
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Now, that's where you go entirely off the rails lumping "universal healthcare" in with "free housing" and suggesting they're both fluff that supposedly all people in foreign countries seem to care about and only "some malcontent Americans " care about.

Based upon that statement alone; you've shown total incompetence to adjudge what foreigners care about and therefore incapable of determining American exceptionalism. You can hardly claim exceptionalism if you have no freak'n idea about what makes other countries great.

"Some" perhaps perusing these very boards, even with their obvious right wing bias would serve to show great interest in a universal healthcare or single payer system with absolutely no linkage whatsoever to "free housing".

You just make this nonsense up in your head and expect people to give it import.
There is a thing you see a lot on this and other boards. It's my opinion! I have a right to my opinion! Sure, of course you have a right to your opinion. That does not make it a GOOD opinion, an opinion on merit or in any way based on facts or reality. A lot of conservative opinion is based on fantasy, not reality. Or a wistful desire for the way they think things should be.
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