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Old 06-22-2019, 05:01 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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You really havenít a clue of what you are saying. All I hear are the ramblings of someone who sounds depressed and defeated.
By depressed and defeated what you mean is realistic and accurate. Sorry but the facts don't care about your feelings, and the fact is America is not exceptional by any meaningful metric. No amount of ad hominem arguments from you is going to change reality.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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An interesting perspective on this topic:

https://psmag.com/economics/american...uality-of-life
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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More and more Americans are shedding "exceptionalism" and realizing that we are just as capable of terrible acts as any other nations.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...nalism/592213/



Weren't you all supposed to be in Canada by now?
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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Europe and Canada hae expanded education and guaranteed paid family leave.

Europe boasts stronger female participation rates, less poverty, and better intergenerational mobility.

In Europe, women are less likely to quit after having a baby, thanks to the generous parental leave policies of many countries there.

Class mobility today is much more achievable in Europe than in the US.

They have a health care system that works reasonably well - and certainly better than the US one.

They tax their wealthier at higher rates than we do here. Less tax burden on their poorest members.
Are you speaking from personal experience and knowledge or just repeating some left wing dribble you happened to read but not personally verify? I lived in Europe for a few years and just returned a few weeks ago from Italy and Greece. My personal experience doesn't necessarily square with what you are claiming. Yes, there are some benefits that we typically don't have here in the US. In terms of health care, good luck if you need a hip replacement in a timely manner! Here in the US it was only 2 weeks from diagnosis to replacement for my son.

In Italy and Greece I had conversations with numerous "locals" who complain about........government, healthcare and taxes! Seems to be pretty universal wherever you go! Ask them about their taxes and you'll get an earful.
A recent study (reported by CBS) indicated "our" poor are better off than much of Europe's middle class.

Here in the states, a significant portion of my clients are from outside the US. Last week I had clients from Australia, England and Canada. They much prefer it here to their native country!
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:13 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Oh for heaven's sake; look up some stats and get yer azz out of your bubble to actually look around.

Americans for all of the exceptionalism belief expressed on here are NOT the happiest nor the best off of the developed first world countries. More Americans are living pay cheque to pay cheque than the citizens of ANY other western nation.

Yes, the U.S. is exceptional ÖÖ but perhaps not in the way that some might like us all to believe.
Those who believe in American exceptionalism are deep deep denial over how stagnant and far behead America is from the rest of the developed world.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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As it turns out, those who think America is exceptional are themselves exceptional, and vice versa
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Countries like Norway, Denmark and Sweden have across the board greater median income levels compared to the US plus they have all of the safety nets they need to live a vastly more fulfilling life. Contrast with Americans who are being worked to death to pay for home, car, education and healthcare coverage they can barely afford.
You can live a more fulfilling life right here in America. All you have to do is be willing to raise a family of 4 in a 2-bedroom apartment or townhouse. You will save all kinds of money by doing so. But the fact is that most Americans will never do that if they can afford to live in a more spacious single family home.

This is also the same reason why most Americans will never choose to live in Europe either, in spite of all the claims that "quality of life" is so much better there. Have you ever looked into the cost of owning and driving a car in the countries you mentioned?
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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As it turns out, those who think America is exceptional are themselves exceptional, and vice versa
Exceptionally stupid.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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More and more Americans are shedding "exceptionalism" and realizing that we are just as capable of terrible acts as any other nations.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...nalism/592213/
Reading the Atlantic are you. Why not read Mother Jones, Salon or Pravda while you are at it?

Keep on pushing the America was never that great rubbish, and see how well that works for your fellow liberals/leftists.

We have the greatest nation this world has ever had, more powerful, wealthy and generous than anyone could have ever imagined not too long ago.
But leftist malcontents who have it far too good to realize it, want to tear it down.
Fortunately the majority of this country is center-right, and while the leftists are the loud rabble rousers, you are in the minority for good reason.


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Old 06-22-2019, 05:28 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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You can live a more fulfilling life right here in America. All you have to do is be willing to raise a family of 4 in a 2-bedroom apartment or townhouse. You will save all kinds of money.
Yeah but there has to be townhouses and apartments for people to actually live in. Unfortunately for Americans 75% of all homes in the country are single family detached dwellings. Which means for most Americans the only option available to them is a home they can't really afford. Which is why so many of them are deep in debt.

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But the fact is that most Americans will never do that if they can afford to live in a more spacious single family home. This is also the same reason why most Americans will never choose to live in Europe either, in spite of all the claims that "quality of life" is so much better there.
They don't "claim" to have a better quality of life, they do have a better quality of life. Statistically in almost every way measurable. They are healthier, live longer, have more safety nets, are happier, have more time off work, have less debt, are less violent, have lower crime rates, etc, etc, etc
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