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View Poll Results: Socialism vs. 4 More Years of Trump
Socialism 60 75.95%
4 More Years of Trump 19 24.05%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-22-2019, 06:30 AM
 
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The question in the title is pretty straight forward.

If you're someone who can't stand Trump and believe anyone would be a better alternative than him, if the choice come 2020 is between someone like Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump, who would you vote for and why?

The reason I ask this question because there's already been at least one mainstream talking head (Joe Scarborough) who admitted that he would vote for Trump if Bernie Sanders were the Democratic nominee, despite how much he loathes him and rails against him on his show. So I imagine he's not alone in feeling that way.
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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For those who say yes to socialism and have wealth....remember there's a great chance in order to make everyone equal, you will be losing your wealth.
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:21 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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If socialism means healthcare, a living wage, closing the concentration camps on the southern border, and actually doing something about the climate crisis then yes, I'll say socialism.
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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For those who say yes to socialism and have wealth....remember there's a great chance in order to make everyone equal, you will be losing your wealth.
My main policy point is single payer healthcare, and Republicans will never support that
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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The question in the title is pretty straight forward.

If you're someone who can't stand Trump and believe anyone would be a better alternative than him, if the choice come 2020 is between someone like Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump, who would you vote for and why?

The reason I ask this question because there's already been at least one mainstream talking head (Joe Scarborough) who admitted that he would vote for Trump if Bernie Sanders were the Democratic nominee, despite how much he loathes him and rails against him on his show. So I imagine he's not alone in feeling that way.
Whats your definition of Socialism?
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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Bernie doesn’t equal socialism.
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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Weird question. The answer is obvious.

Isn’t that like asking Trump supporters if they would rather have capitalism or Biden?
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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Well I don't understand how you can see the jump from no Trump to socialism just like that.

In another thread someone is lamenting the fact the Democrats don't want to go all in on socialism and yet that seems to be the scare tactic for Republicans. It's all getting a little psycho out there.
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:38 AM
 
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Whats your definition of Socialism?
Before I respond, do note that I put "Socialism" in quotations. That's because Bernie Sanders labels himself as a "Democratic Socialist" (for whatever reason).

That being said, the policies Bernie advocates for clearly aren't Socialist. They're Social Democratic, in the same mold as what you would find in the Nordic countries. Essentially, it's heavily regulated capitalism.

The thing is, even Social Democracy is perceived to be too radical by many in America. These "Never Trump" voters would be more than happy to vote for Buttigieg, Biden and Harris because they can be certain they'll maintain the economic status quo in America they enjoy, given their lack of conviction and inability to take a specific policy stance. However, some of them seem to draw the line with hating a 2nd term of Trump so much with the possibility of a Bernie Sanders presidency.

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Old 06-22-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Bran's tree
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Well considering that the American conservative definition of "socialism" is likely simply having social safety nets, universal healthcare, and worker rights/protections, I'll go with that.
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