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Old 06-24-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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Do either of you have a link?

I thought he may have tweeted after it was brought forward on Friday. And maybe there was a general tweet about it, but nothing regarding the timing and planning.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...658870274?s=19

He didn't say the specific day or area, but next week is narrow enough and puts people on alert to try and avoid it, especially when he has said before that you shouldn't announce stuff like this ahead of time.
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Old 06-24-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...658870274?s=19

He didn't say the specific day or area, but next week is narrow enough and puts people on alert to try and avoid it, especially when he has said before that you shouldn't announce stuff like this ahead of time.
That's a general tweet.

Here is WaPo with the specifics of the plan from Friday.

ICE raids targeting migrant families slated to start Sunday in major U.S. cities

President Trump has directed U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to conduct a mass roundup of migrant families that have received deportation orders, an operation that is likely to begin with predawn raids in major U.S. cities on Sunday, according to three U.S. officials with knowledge of the plans.

The “family op,” as it is referred to at ICE and the Department of Homeland Security, is slated to target up to 2,000 families in as many as 10 U.S. cities, including Houston, Chicago, Miami, Los Angeles and other major immigration destinations, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the law enforcement operation.


None of this was mentioned by Trump. Here's the rat.

Acting DHS secretary Kevin McAleenan has been urging ICE, an agency within his department, to conduct a narrower, more targeted operation that would seek to detain a group of about 150 families that were provided with attorneys but dropped out of the legal process and absconded.

McAleenan has warned that an indiscriminate operation to arrest migrants in their homes and at work sites risks separating children from their parents in cases where the children are at day care, summer camp or friend’s houses. He also has maintained that ICE should not devote major resources to carrying out a mass interior sweep while telling lawmakers it needs emergency funding to address the crisis at the U.S. border.


He makes it seem as though he is the reasoned one. He was against the whole thing from the start.

From the other article I referenced... a small blurb...

McAleenan traveled with the author of the Post report, Nick Miroff, on a government plane down to the border on Wednesday.
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Old 06-24-2019, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Trump will always be the steady hand on the wheel.

Can you imagine how many service people would already be dead if Hillary had been elected?
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Old 06-24-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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Trump will always be the steady hand on the wheel.

Can you imagine how many service people would already be dead if Hillary had been elected?
Thanks for the morning chuckle. Steady hand? It's more like Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow
If that were true he wouldn’t be your President. ����





I'll bet you thought the queen would be crowned in 2016.

So, good luck with that. I and many Independents will be voting for him this time around. I didn't last time, but I damn well do not want a socialist for President.

Go ahead and try to explain how Democratic Socialism is different from Socialism. That's your ignorance showing.

A socialist is a socialist is a socialist.
"the goal of Socialism is Communism" - Vladimir Lenin

So go right on ahead believing any of these Dems, falling over themselves to be the most extreme leftist, will ever be elected. It's a delusion, just as "Obama was a great President" is a delusion.





The last thing they will admit is that Trump has been consistent. Hell, they say he hasn't kept any of his promises when he has actually kept most of them or is in the process of it. Pretty good for a man that has been attacked nonstop from both parties, mainstream and social media.


It simply makes me hate elitist swamp creatures even more. Pretty sure he has added a few million Independents. I guarantee he has added a ton of Libertarians.
Wow you seriously need to look past the propaganda.

All I can say for you is give it your best shot!
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Neither. He does it for votes period. That is why he changes his mind every 5 minutes. One of his influencers gets in his ear and that's it.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: NC
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Democrats begged Trump to call it off and Trump made a deal !!!
Do something to fix the asylum loopholes in two week or the deportation begin !!!
Stopping the asylum entry's from coming in is keeping more out than could ever be deported in the same time frame !!! Less costly too !!!
This is exactly correct. He called it off so that he can reject whatever Dems propose and say he "won". Doesn't matter what they propose, he'll reject it and claim they never put anything forward.

Pretty smart move on his part if you judge the world by "winning". If Integrity, or actually solving real problems is an objective (it seemingly is not for him and his base), then it may not play so well.

In conclusion:
His base will lap it up.
His detractors will see it for what it is.
So about 60/40 will see this negatively, and Trump will still say "most Americans" back him. His base will buy it without question, and nothing will change. Is that a win? Depends on who you ask...
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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A page from the Ike playbook. Get them to self deport out of fear of being deported to somewhere other than where they would like.
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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This is exactly correct. He called it off so that he can reject whatever Dems propose and say he "won". Doesn't matter what they propose, he'll reject it and claim they never put anything forward.

Pretty smart move on his part if you judge the world by "winning". If Integrity, or actually solving real problems is an objective (it seemingly is not for him and his base), then it may not play so well.

In conclusion:
His base will lap it up.
His detractors will see it for what it is.
So about 60/40 will see this negatively, and Trump will still say "most Americans" back him. His base will buy it without question, and nothing will change. Is that a win? Depends on who you ask...
Yeah, this is likely a big part of it. He castigated Obama for telegraphing his actions ahead of time. Yet here he is doing the same thing.

If they are legally allowed to do raids, why announce even generally that they are coming? Word will definitely get out once it happens and then other people may get fearful and fire workers/go home/whatever. Now he does look wishy washy for announcing, then backing off.
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: FL
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Bingo! I've said from day one that Trump nor any other politician is never going to do anything meaningful to stop illegal immigration. There are way too many (mostly conservative) businessmen who depend on a steady flow of cheap labor.

Until we go after these business owners with harsh penalties this problem will continue to perpetuate. Trump is just throwing bones out to his ignorant base. He's got them convinced that walls and deportations will work. He's making a big deal of it now because he knows he's got an election coming up. He needs to stoke his base. It's all he's got left.

E-Verify is so easy to implement but no one wants to do that.
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