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Old 06-22-2019, 07:37 PM
 
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But fix the loopholes alone.

The fix can't be tied to other stuff.

What happens is that one side makes a bill all about issue B...and sneaks in all kinds of other things. When the Bill isn't passed then the other side is attacked for not looking after the one basic issue blah blah blah.

I'm tired of those games.

So tired.

And yes both sides do it.
^^Great post.

Yep. The one that actually passed with stuff snuck in that is potentially affecting me and many others in the long run is the "Moving forward for Progress in the 21st century" transporation bill. Buried within, it allowed corporate pension plans to use 30 year average interest rates instead of 2 years because those were much lower.

In short, if GE were required by law to fund their pension to 20billion (just winging it roughly, don't have numbers in front of me.) it now is only having to fund it to around 15billion.

Same goes for every other corporate pension out there.

For me, it's not a ton of money among my pensions, but to someone else, it might be more significant.

Again, it was a transportation bill....but fundamentally changed how much money corporations have to fund pensions with.
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Old 06-22-2019, 07:39 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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He is simply doing all he can to ensure that he isn't forced to serve another 4 years as president. I don't believe that he ever wanted the job. It was all a stunt. I mean seriously, who would ever guess that the Dems would run someone so bad that even Trump could beat them? Now he is doing all he can to make sure even Sanders or Warren can beat him. LOL

He isn't soft, because he has 0 empathy for anyone. He called off the raids to anger his base.
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Old 06-22-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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Yep. Since the wall hasn't been and never will be built - Trump threw some red meat to his base by crowing about rounding up brown people and kicking them out of the country.
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Great racist post.
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Old 06-22-2019, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Even though it would have been the correct action to raid and deport the targeted illegals (remember....they had legal proceedings and were supposed to leave), the liberal media would have had the cameras rolling as little toddlers were put in buses or whatever (with their parents of course) for transport back to Mexico. Democrats would be rolling those tapes up to the election, calling Trump a Hitler and a monster, and the average voter would have fallen for it.

I'm disappointed, though. It's showing illegals that even AFTER they get deportation notices, this country will do nothing to see them enforced, and they'll be allowed to stay - and we will continue to provide ESOL classes and free lunches to their kids as the neighborhoods and schools where they settle go downhill.
We don't need that footage. Trust me, there's PLENTY of stuff that can be used on Trump come election time. No need for you to worry about that!
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Old 06-22-2019, 07:48 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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My guess is Stephen Miller got himself locked in a bathroom somewhere. The raids will probably be on again once he figures how to get himself out.
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Old 06-22-2019, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yep. Since the wall hasn't been and never will be built - Trump threw some red meat to his base by crowing about rounding up brown people and kicking them out of the country.



Pinning ones hopes on Trump being a liar is statistically a winning strategy.
I'll give him this: he knows how to play his base. The funniest part to me is they don't even have the faintest clue to what's happening.
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Old 06-22-2019, 07:55 PM
 
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I just saw this that Trump is calling off the ICE raids tomorrow and will give the Senate time to talk about it.

This past week we saw him call back a counter attack on the site that fired the missile that took down our drone. He did this when he found out that up to 150 people were expected to be collateral damage in the attack.

For years the Left has been telling us that Trump is a monster, a Hitler dictator wanna be with no heart, someone that would tear families apart and put them into "concentration camps" at the border..

Could the naysayers be wrong? Could Trump actually be a human being with feelings for families, kids and soldiers caught in the crossfire of their leaders mistake? How could this be?

I agree with Trump to call off the counter attack but not so much with calling off the raids of illegal aliens that already had their day in court, were told to leave and didn't.

His decisions of course are political so there has to be an angle which I'm sure will soon be disparaged, extrapolated and spun into a negative frenzy by the Left for weeks but what can you do?

Is calling off the ICE raids a good idea?
Neither. Trump is neither soft (unless you mean soft in the head from dementia) nor humane.

He is, however, hyper-aware of his polls and popularity, all the more so since he "officially" launched his re-election campaign, although actually he never stopped campaigning, as a normal president would, since he seems to be unable to live without cheering crowds.
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Old 06-22-2019, 08:12 PM
 
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Mr indecisive
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Old 06-22-2019, 08:34 PM
 
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I just saw this that Trump is calling off the ICE raids tomorrow and will give the Senate time to talk about it.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-d...ds-11561230851



This past week we saw him call back a counter attack on the site that fired the missile that took down our drone. He did this when he found out that up to 150 people were expected to be collateral damage in the attack.



For years the Left has been telling us that Trump is a monster, a Hitler dictator wanna be with no heart, someone that would tear families apart and put them into "concentration camps" at the border..

Could the naysayers be wrong? Could Trump actually be a human being with feelings for families, kids and soldiers caught in the crossfire of their leaders mistake? How could this be?



I agree with Trump to call off the counter attack but not so much with calling off the raids of illegal aliens that already had their day in court, were told to leave and didn't.



His decisions of course are political so there has to be an angle which I'm sure will soon be disparaged, extrapolated and spun into a negative frenzy by the Left for weeks but what can you do?



Is calling off the ICE raids a good idea?
Haven't you noticed that Trump comes up with these fear tactics, only to back down later. It's a pattern with him.
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Old 06-22-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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Haven't you noticed that Trump comes up with these fear tactics, only to back down later. It's a pattern with him.
It substitutes for an actual plan that he would actually have to put some effort into.
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