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Old 06-23-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Okay I'm confused, isn't it the job of ICE to periodically round up these "law breakers" and deport them?
So why all the pomp and circumstance from Trump. They no doubt informed him that they're going along at the regular pace and there was not going to be a big photo op. Trump probably envisioned a big Hollywood style picture of him peering down from a perch while below him armed ICE guards are herding 100,000 Mexicans into waiting buses all facing southward. He could have sold signed copies to Trumpaholics.
Read ICE website. They are involved with all sorts of crime. Biggest is child n sex trafficking, child porn and the ever increasing drugs. You gave greater crimes committed against society’s in overdrive -than some poor family watching kids and doing lawns. There is not enough money or man power to do it all. Which do you prefer to be the priority?
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Houston
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He can’t win or do anything right with the TDS crowd, this thread is perfect evidence of that. F every single one of them.
The "TDS crowd" is now the majority of Americans.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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Okay I'm confused, isn't it the job of ICE to periodically round up these "law breakers" and deport them?
So why all the pomp and circumstance from Trump. They no doubt informed him that they're going along at the regular pace and there was not going to be a big photo op. Trump probably envisioned a big Hollywood style picture of him peering down from a perch while below him armed ICE guards are herding 100,000 Mexicans into waiting buses all facing southward. He could have sold signed copies to Trumpaholics.
Right, all he said was that he was going to start doing his job Sunday but then said, well nevermind. He blames it on Pelosi when we know the real culprit is business.

He isn't going to cut off the low wage train.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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He can’t win or do anything right with the TDS crowd, this thread is perfect evidence of that. F every single one of them.
He as to actually do something to do something right. He likes to spout off on what he is going to do but then does nothing. Still waiting on his wonderful health care plan that everyone is going to love.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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I just saw this that Trump is calling off the ICE raids tomorrow and will give the Senate time to talk about it.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-d...ds-11561230851



This past week we saw him call back a counter attack on the site that fired the missile that took down our drone. He did this when he found out that up to 150 people were expected to be collateral damage in the attack.



For years the Left has been telling us that Trump is a monster, a Hitler dictator wanna be with no heart, someone that would tear families apart and put them into "concentration camps" at the border..

Could the naysayers be wrong? Could Trump actually be a human being with feelings for families, kids and soldiers caught in the crossfire of their leaders mistake? How could this be?



I agree with Trump to call off the counter attack but not so much with calling off the raids of illegal aliens that already had their day in court, were told to leave and didn't.



His decisions of course are political so there has to be an angle which I'm sure will soon be disparaged, extrapolated and spun into a negative frenzy by the Left for weeks but what can you do?



Is calling off the ICE raids a good idea?

i think trump made the right decision in both cases to prevent the unnecessary loss of life. since iran shot down a unmanned drone, there was no reason to kill 150 people on the ground. had the aircraft been manned though, the outcome might have been different.


as for the ice raids, the information about the raids was leaked, and as such compromised the effort and would put ice officers in jeopardy. better to pull back and do the raids later when things calm down and those that have expulsion orders against them are not ready for the raids.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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i think trump made the right decision in both cases to prevent the unnecessary loss of life. since iran shot down a unmanned drone, there was no reason to kill 150 people on the ground. had the aircraft been manned though, the outcome might have been different.


as for the ice raids, the information about the raids was leaked, and as such compromised the effort and would put ice officers in jeopardy. better to pull back and do the raids later when things calm down and those that have expulsion orders against them are not ready for the raids.
Released is not a synonym for leaked.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:59 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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This is merely a strategic move by Donny to get the base all riled up for 2020.

Trump has been president for 2 1/2 years now, and yet he suddenly decides to conduct these nationwide ICE raids of sanctuary cities....just FOUR days after his official reelection kickoff?

Thie timing of this was purely to stir up his base headed into election season. Even Trump supporters will admit it LOL
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i think trump made the right decision in both cases to prevent the unnecessary loss of life. since iran shot down a unmanned drone, there was no reason to kill 150 people on the ground. had the aircraft been manned though, the outcome might have been different.


as for the ice raids, the information about the raids was leaked, and as such compromised the effort and would put ice officers in jeopardy. better to pull back and do the raids later when things calm down and those that have expulsion orders against them are not ready for the raids.
Oh indeed. "The information about the raids was leaked" by Trump himself.


Secondly, where IS he going to put all these people that he 'rounds up'? Generally there is a detainment process before they are sent back wherever and Trump has nowhere to put them.
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Old 06-23-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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Oh indeed. "The information about the raids was leaked" by Trump himself.


Secondly, where IS he going to put all these people that he 'rounds up'? Generally there is a detainment process before they are sent back wherever and Trump has nowhere to put them.

I think most of those targetted in the first rounds are those who have already been issued deportation orders. They have already had their due process. They will be deported immediately.
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Old 06-23-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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as for the ice raids, the information about the raids was leaked, and as such compromised the effort and would put ice officers in jeopardy. better to pull back and do the raids later when things calm down and those that have expulsion orders against them are not ready for the raids.

You mean Trump leaked his OWN info via Twitter?
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Old 06-23-2019, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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i think trump made the right decision in both cases to prevent the unnecessary loss of life. since iran shot down a unmanned drone, there was no reason to kill 150 people on the ground. had the aircraft been manned though, the outcome might have been different.


as for the ice raids, the information about the raids was leaked, and as such compromised the effort and would put ice officers in jeopardy. better to pull back and do the raids later when things calm down and those that have expulsion orders against them are not ready for the raids.
It was and would have caused mayhem for all concerned - even small raids are planned and shared with local police to coordinate any efforts n downplay any violence - but trumpettes can’t see that
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