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Old 06-23-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Alright... Since the intellect to understand the point I'm trying to drive home is thus far lacking:

Who did the two states I mentioned in my original post go to in the 2016 general election?
Both states went with Trump. So far Trump has been holding the war hawks back when it comes to Iran and other countries. If Trump took the advice from Bolton and others the U S would be in Venezuela with many boots on the ground and he would have bombed Iran over the shooting down of a drone.

As far as abortion ending the only role a POTUS can play is picking SC justices to over turn Roe vs Wade which will not end abortion nation wide. If you noticed the states have been taking their own action with some protecting abortion rights and others trying to out law abortion or restrict it to the max.
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Old 06-23-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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If A Butterfly Flaps Its Wings in Wyoming in 2016, Could it begin the process of ending legal abortion in the U.S.?

Your thoughts!...
Yes.
Given the serendipitous nature of history, it has been shown that sometimes the most insignificant of events can result in changes far beyond the scope of mere 'wing flapping'.


But that same wing flapping could give us a non-nuclear Iran and a border wall that is effective. FWIW: Abortion has never been, and will never be, banned. California and New York have always allowed abortions. If R vs W is repealed, states will make up their own minds.
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Old 06-23-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Cleaning CAT VOMIT out of radiators
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Yes.
Given the serendipitous nature of history, it has been shown that sometimes the most insignificant of events can result in changes far beyond the scope of mere 'wing flapping'.


But that same wing flapping could give us a non-nuclear Iran and a border wall that is effective. FWIW: Abortion has never been, and will never be, banned. California and New York have always allowed abortions. If R vs W is repealed, states will make up their own minds.


Finally - someone who gets it!!

The 'butterflies' represent the voters!

So remember, before you vote - one way or another - pause, pray, and reflect on how your choice might impact your neighbors, people in other states with circumstances that may differ from yours, and how your choice might impact the destiny of all of human kind.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Finally - someone who gets it!!

The 'butterflies' represent the voters!

So remember, before you vote - one way or another - pause, pray, and reflect on how your choice might impact your neighbors, people in other states with circumstances that may differ from yours, and how your choice might impact the destiny of all of human kind.
You are asking to much from your average American voter. You know they will break up into 2 camps and have been taught to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Plus there are millions and millions that vote a straight party ticket. Do you know anyone that goes to the polls and considers how their lousy choice will effect their neighbors or those that oppose? or how it will effect foreign policy?
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Who knew that pouting Bernie Sanders supporters would put Trump in the Whitehouse? They did.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/54581...p-survey-finds
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...p-voters-study
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I guess the good news is that butterflies are going extinct....................... so we won't have the "butterfly effect" anymore.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Cleaning CAT VOMIT out of radiators
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I guess the good news is that butterflies are going extinct....................... so we won't have the "butterfly effect" anymore.
My 'butterflies' represent all voters - not just liberal, conservative, indie, Dem, Republican, etc.
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Cleaning CAT VOMIT out of radiators
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You are asking to much from your average American voter. You know they will break up into 2 camps and have been taught to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Plus there are millions and millions that vote a straight party ticket. Do you know anyone that goes to the polls and considers how their lousy choice will effect their neighbors or those that oppose? or how it will effect foreign policy?
That's because the "avg. American voter" is too busy watching sh|t like "The Bachelor", "Game of Thrones", or playing "Candy Crush" on their phones!

Instead, they can, and should be, doing research into ALL the presidential candidates, ahead of the primaries and general election.

Imagine how much one can learn by missing just one hour of "American Idol" and instead switching on PBS News Hour. Or by going to the offical websites of each presidential candidate, and reading up on them. If they drive to and from work five days a week, tune the car radio to NPR or an independent news provider for at least one way, instead of their local 'Morning Zoo' radio show. Choices, people!

The average American voter is not being forced to watch crap on television, or to scroll aimlessly through Facebook. They have CHOICES as to how they spend each of 24 hours in a day.

Eight for work, seven for sleep, three for meals, one at the gym. That leaves approx 5 hours, of which at least one per day should be spent doing research on how candidates feel about issues that matter to them personally.

As much as I dislike about the U.S., at least here we do have the freedom to choose how we carve up the hours in a day.

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Old 06-25-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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Here's another example of how some butterflies on the farm are reaping what they sowed in the voting booth:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...newday-vpx.cnn
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Cleaning CAT VOMIT out of radiators
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Yes.
.... California and New York have always allowed abortions. If R vs W is repealed, states will make up their own minds.
A dozen or so already have - and they've come out blood red against it.

Classic butterfly effect of voters who are against abortion voting for the same quality in a state candidate. The cases in some of those states, accordingly, will make it before the USSC bench, and some will be upheld, threatening RvW and abortions nationwide.

Lesson: The butterfly's wings start flapping in that voting both, and the breeze they create may affect others - on any issue(abortion, health care, guns, education, climate, foreign policy) - you are not thinking about as you fill in that circle, flip that lever, or tap that screen behind the curtain!
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