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Old 06-24-2019, 03:22 AM
 
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If you want income tax, everybody shall pay the same AMOUNT.

Why should Person A pays more than Person B when we have a one person one vote system?
Our less populated states should pay more because their votes are worth more than votes from the states where people actually want to live.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:30 AM
 
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Combine that with big spending cuts.
"Combine that with big spending cuts."

Been saying for YEARS, EVERY gov't program, including the military's, needs revues, something like BRAC, to determine:

Is it fulfilling its original objective

Is it cost effective

Is it still needed

Etc., etc.,etc.

There are literally THOUSANDS of fed programs that should be eliminated. Past Sen. Tom Coburn published a book EVERY year showing these wasteful programs.

Some Agencies need to be eliminated. We do NOT need a Dept of Education, education is a STATE responsibility, at a cost of $68 BILLION a year. If there are some worthwhile programs that can be handled by other Agencies.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:36 AM
 
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I would do a national person tax for everyone over 20, and a state sales tax.

I agree with the idea of everybody paying in.
"I would do a national person tax for everyone over 20,"

If you can vote at 18, you should be paying taxes.

" and a state sales tax."

Agree, ONLY if ALL other taxes are eliminated.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:38 AM
 
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Could be set up:

Income is taxed at 10% for income from $0 to $30,000. Then 20% from $30,000 and up.

A National Sales Tax of 4%.
"Income is taxed at 10% for income from $0 to $30,000. Then 20% from $30,000 and up."

Nope. A national sales tax ONLY.

Look at how small the IRS would be if we ONLY had a national sales tax.

Your way, we would still need a larger IRS.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:42 AM
 
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If you do a percentage, make it the same for everyone.

The more you make, the more you pay. The less you make, the less you pay.

It's not what I'd prefer, but it's the best based on doing a percentage.
Still take a larger IRS then a national sales tax.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:48 AM
 
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"Income is taxed at 10% for income from $0 to $30,000. Then 20% from $30,000 and up."

Nope. A national sales tax ONLY.

Look at how small the IRS would be if we ONLY had a national sales tax.

Your way, we would still need a larger IRS.
Just have 10% taken out of individuals paychecks till they reach $30,001. Then 20% after that. Then the treasury collects the 4% to 5% of sales tax.

No forms or tax returns to complete yearly.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It is fine the way it is, but the marginal rates on the wealthy should be increased significantly and passive income should see rates in line with earned income.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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No taxes period. Let's try that
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:14 AM
 
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It is fine the way it is, but the marginal rates on the wealthy should be increased significantly and passive income should see rates in line with earned income.
I disagree

I feel income taxes are too high and not enough

I think can balance it by having a low rate for those making lower incomes, strengthening the middle class with a fair flat tax, and can balance taxes with higher earners with a national sales tax.
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Assuming they work part-time as most do while in school, it would exclude no one. A flat tax, no deductions, has all paying something. No one freeloads like millions do now.
Eh, no you are still wrong. I'm talking about not including young people in the voting populous. As I have shown in another post, the threshold to file is somewhere above $3,000. If they just work during summer, they would need to live in a state that has $12 an hour minimum wage to be paying taxes.

As for the age, if the state has an age limit of say 16 to work, should the 16 year old make north of $3,000, they would be able to vote at about 21/2 depending on when they turn 16 in regards to a tax year. This proposal is a thinly veiled voting age increase to at least 21, yet they can choose to go into the military at age 18. Old enough to goto war, not old enough to vote? Also does the military count if they go into school at one of the military schools (including the Merchant Marine Academy on Long Island?) If not, they are froze some 4 years making military college students be about 23/24 when they could vote.

Also now you claim it is a flat tax, it don't sound like one. Well unless I read the proposal wrong or you changed your tune. Also how could an income tax actually include everyone? It requires a social security number and that is the only good thing to come from a proposal for some sort of retail sales tax, even if it is entirely regressive (even the Fair Tax is and what's worse is due to the prebate being for everyone, it actually hits the middle class, the main reason I'm against the Fair Tax especially.)
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