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Old 06-30-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I disagree.

Conservatives think liberals are demon possessed deviants who are the scum of the earth and who are responsible for the downfall of "Christian America." You see it all the time on this board every time somebody calls a liberal a "DemonRAT" or "lib tard."
This guy's whole premise is ridiculous considering that conservatives consider 'communism' and 'socialism' as "evil" systems while clearly stating that liberals are "communists and socialists".
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:40 PM
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I disagree.

Conservatives think liberals are demon possessed deviants who are the scum of the earth and who are responsible for the downfall of "Christian America." You see it all the time on this board every time somebody calls a liberal a "DemonRAT" or "lib tard."

Again, nobody is arguing that both sides don't have those that engage in childish name calling and demagoguery. No political side is totally pure when it comes to that. I do think it's fair to say that the higher more powerful levels of each party react considerably different towards the crazies like those that engage in said demagoguery.

The point being made in the OP link is that many liberals (certainly NOT ALL) are quicker to justify or in rarer cases go so far as to condone or even celebrate such behavior against conservatives than vice versa. Heck, a one of HRC's campaign staffers just today downplayed and more or less tacitly justified Antifa's violent assault of Andy Ngo, a gay conservative, citing his unflattering exposes on Antifa and an article pointing out the how heavy Islamic immigration into England was drastically changing the culture of many London neighborhoods. Nothing he wrote in that article or did at the Antifa rally in any way justified the viscous, violent attack he received at the Antifa rally yet he was mocked and basically told the attack was justified because he was apparently a bad person for having views that those particular liberals didn't like. There are countless other examples of this kind of mindset on the left...granted the more far left wing of the party.

If you can find as many examples of liberals being the subject of unprovoked physical assaults that led to them being mocked or told the attacks were justified because of what they said or wrote then I'm all ears.
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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What a bunch of B.S.

Leftists are evil in no uncertain or borderline terms. To suggest that conservatives regard leftists ideas as "bad" assumes that we trust them enough to accept their "ideas" at face value. We do not, as leftists are aggressive unconscionable liars.

I do not know where the OP picked up the premise of this thread, but it assumes that leftists have some foundational point of orientation for ascertaining morality. They do not.
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Old 06-30-2019, 08:21 PM
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What a bunch of B.S.

Leftists are evil in no uncertain or borderline terms. To suggest that conservatives regard leftists ideas as "bad" assumes that we trust them enough to accept their "ideas" at face value. We do not, as leftists are aggressive unconscionable liars.

I do not know where the OP picked up the premise of this thread, but it assumes that leftists have some foundational point of orientation for ascertaining morality. They do not.

The premise was from a comment Dan Bongino made on one of his podcasts. He made it in the context of a study that showed that liberals become more clueless in their understanding of their opponents (conservatives) the higher the level of education they have received.

His main premise was that liberals (not all liberals but liberals in general) don't "get" conservatives and don't care to try to understand where conservatives are coming from because they think conservatives are "bad people" whose views aren't worthy of their consideration. He also made that the point that while conservatives in general think liberals have crazy and nutty views they still believed they have a right to hold and share those views publically without fear of being assaulted or censored for their views.

The commentator's entire point was that in light of the 2020 presidential election only being a little over a year away it was important to engage and debate issues with liberals...not to necessarily win THEM over with good arguments but to win over rational open minded third party listeners that might be listening and that can be won over.

I was hoping at least a few people would have actually watched/listened to the 5 minute segment I referenced in the OP but given most of the responses it's obvious that isn't happening...lol
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Don't know who Dan Bongo is, but what makes his opinion any good?

Many liberals may be intolerant of conservatives, but if you think conservatives are somehow more tolerant of liberals - that's a hoot (and a blatant lie).
an that is your opinion....


to me liberals are the least tolerant

conservatives will admit that liberals have some good ideas...but poor plans to implement those good ideas...…..
why... because liberals think with their heart, instead of their brains
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Don't know who Dan Bongo is, but what makes his opinion any good?
Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. The quality of an idea, something that you ought to be able to judge for yourself, has nothing to do with the status of the person expressing it.

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Old 06-30-2019, 10:25 PM
 
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No...speaking for myself, I think conservatives are bad people with absolutely atrocious ideas.

Every blue moon they hit on something, but the moon hasn’t been blue in years.
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Japan
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"Liberals think conservatives are bad people with ideas while Conservatives think Liberals are people with bad ideas"
This is a useful way of looking at it. So much of liberal politics these days is about judging who is good and who is evil. You can see it in the popularity of slogans like, "this is not who we are", "the battle for the soul of America".
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:32 AM
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No...speaking for myself, I think conservatives are bad people with absolutely atrocious ideas.

Every blue moon they hit on something, but the moon hasn’t been blue in years.

Which is the exact point the commentator I linked in the OP was making in the segment I mentioned. Thanks for confirming his point.
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Old 07-01-2019, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Which is the exact point the commentator I linked in the OP was making in the segment I mentioned. Thanks for confirming his point.
Most of the conservatives on this forum act like cultists/baby-eating zombies who are trying to take over the world. They don't care about data or facts. They're driven by idealism and catchy slogans.

Now, were I to judge conservatives based on what I see in the real world, I'd assume they're mostly hard-working small-business owners and entrepreneurs who are incredibly creative and are confident they'll be better at knowing what to do with their money than government bureaucracies, and if they don't know much about a topic it's probably because they've been spending too much time supporting their families, and friends and investing in their futures.

Here, though, I see a kind of endless game of wac-a-mole where the conservatives are kind of like the moles and they don't care about data of any kind. They usually just like to exaggerate the importance of rare events, like eccentric leftists throwing temper tantrums, or make catchy slogans, or vaguely complain about how liberals are trying to destroy the world without stating anything of value.

The "wacking" of the moles consists of stating intelligent or researched comments, which are swiftly rendered pointless as they're swarmed under a pile of catchy slogans, poorly thought out idealism, and lazy denial without bothering to look into the topic.

I'm seriously wondering if there are paid conservative trolls on this forum because of the above.

I don't know enough about economics to really be a liberal...I just know that this forum makes me very concerned about the type of mentality in the conservative party...well...that and my state's Republican party. I live in Missouri.
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