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Old 07-02-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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Weak responses bring out the pejoratives. In place of a weak, unenforceable deal that did not have the force of a UNITED States government, President Trump put enforceable sanctions. That is winning.
That's - kinda counterfactual.
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Old 07-02-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Weak responses bring out the pejoratives. In place of a weak, unenforceable deal that did not have the force of a UNITED States government, President Trump put enforceable sanctions. That is winning.
The deal was being enforced by an international team, those sanctions are not going to stop their progress towards nuclear capability. This is what is know as losing, we are watching amateur's at work. This administration is not capable of negotiating complicated agreements, but they are good at destroying those already in place.
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Old 07-02-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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The deal was being enforced by an international team, those sanctions are not going to stop their progress towards nuclear capability. This is what is know as losing, we are watching amateur's at work. This administration is not capable of negotiating complicated agreements, but they are good at destroying those already in place.
What nonsense.

It was a deal between the Islamist terrorist mullahs running Iran and John Kerry. It had no legal bearing at all, and no country on the planet was investing any time or money in insuring that Iran did anything.


It's like everything else the hapless community agitator put his hands on, it turned to ****.
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Old 07-02-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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It was a deal between the Islamist terrorist mullahs running Iran and John Kerry. It had no legal bearing at all, and no country on the planet was investing any time or money in insuring that Iran did anything.
P5+1, with the IAEA carrying out inspections.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/focus/iran

I might add that the IAEA has a very much better track record than Republican presidents when it comes to nuclear material in countries beginning with "Ira".
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Old 07-02-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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What nonsense.

It was a deal between the Islamist terrorist mullahs running Iran and John Kerry. It had no legal bearing at all, and no country on the planet was investing any time or money in insuring that Iran did anything.


It's like everything else the hapless community agitator put his hands on, it turned to ****.
So there weren’t any inspections for compliance, news to me and the international community. So what is the master plan now, sanction the Ayatollahs children because that is all that’s left. I just know Trump is going to come up with a better agreement, the 5 countries will approve as will congress. It’s a dream come true.
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Old 07-02-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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So there weren’t any inspections for compliance, ....
You just created a topic saying they weren't complying. lol..

It's not that hard to figure out. There was no treaty between the United States and Iran.
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Old 07-02-2019, 02:32 PM
 
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Iran is a sovereign nation. We pulled out of the deal so we have nothing to say about it now.
Amazingly, some folks are too brain cell challenged to get that.
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Old 07-02-2019, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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"Iran has abandoned even the pretense that its nuclear program is meant for peace. Iran's ayatollahs are using the threat of nuclear enrichment to extort America into restoring the terrible deal that enriched Iran's military and proxies while imposing zero consequences for their acts of terror."

I don't know where you found that gem, but it's quite silly and a classic example of fear-mongering.

We're talking about Uranium for crying out loud.

If you people don't understand the difference between Uranium and Plutonium, it's because you choose to remain ignorant. It's not like I haven't explained it 10 Million times.

If you think Iran is going to be putting 5 megaton warheads on ICBMs and launching them at Israel and the US that's only possible in your hallucinations.

There's a very good reason why nobody ever used Uranium as a fission trigger for thermonuclear weapons.

There's also a very good reason why nobody ever used gun designs for ICBMs. If you have to ask "Why?" then it's probably because some part of ICBM totally confuses and confounds you. The same holds true for IRBMs.

If Iran ever decided to build nuclear weapons, they'd have little offensive value, unless Iran plans on invading Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan, because those are the only countries Iran could use them against.

They would have tremendous value as a defensive capability.

That's why the US is throwing a hissy fit. The US needs control of Iran, but it can't get control if Iran has nuclear weapons.
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Old 07-02-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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You just created a topic saying they weren't complying. lol..

It's not that hard to figure out. There was no treaty between the United States and Iran.
We’re out of the deal. We have nothing to say about it anymore no matter what Iran does.

So stop sniveling about it.
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Old 07-02-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You just created a topic saying they weren't complying. lol..

It's not that hard to figure out. There was no treaty between the United States and Iran.
Yes after we withdrew from the deal, why would they remain in compliance since we reneged on the agreement.
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